[Dick Vomer]

And nobody had a gun? My younger son at 40 yards with a 9mm pistol would put 12 of 14 rounds into him

pistol on hip while bowling, drinking at a bar …. Very very hard to react vs rifle …. Might be lucky to kill the perp while he was putting in the next magazine, but that’s a pretty tight window.

[Retain Mike]

He would figure that out. He says the only time you need it is when you don’t have it. After Marine Presidental Security and federal law enforcement, I feel safer around him.