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To: GBA
We had embedded reporters in those wars because our troops were fighting there. As such, we had a vested and personal interest. All we have in Ukraine are American weaponry and some volunteers.

We had front line reporters covering the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

In case you missed it, Biden and NATO have made Ukraine the hill to die on. Biden says we will be supporting Ukraine for as long as it takes. We have provided tens of billions of dollars and weapons to Afghanistan and implemented sanctions against Russia that have returned us to a new Cold War and caused a global political realignment that is not favorable to us.

Biden has called for regime change in Russia and the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Putin on March 17, 2023. We didn't even do this during the the Cold War. We have made it personal.

The US continues to push for NATO membership for Ukraine, which crosses a Russian red line. NATO was warned in Autumn 2021 by Russia that NATO could avoid a war by denying membership to Ukraine. Here’s NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg admitting Russia informed NATO before the war that it could avert it by denying membership to Ukraine.

No vested or personal US interest? Are you gaslighting me? We have provided more military and economic aid to Ukraine than we have to Israel since it was founded in 1949.

We have opened a permanent US military base in Poland. We are now on the doorstep of Ukraine and possible direct involvement in Ukraine. Putin considers Crimea part of Russia as much as Moscow is. We support Ukraine's position that all the territory occupied by Russia must be returned to Ukraine. It is part of what we define as winning. There is no compromise between those two positions. Putin says he will use nuclear weapons if he has to defend Russian territory. We had a similar showdown with the Soviet Union over the stationing of missiles in Cuba. Both sides blinked but not before we were at the abyss of a nuclear confrontation.

Army establishes permanent garrison in Poland In addition to supporting the permanently assigned forces, USAG Poland will also provide direct base operations support to roughly 4,000 rotational forces and 2,500 surge or exercise personnel.

Biden blames the Ukraine war for higher gas and food prices. Americans are paying a price at home for this war. And it is far from over. Desperation drives escalation.

Sometimes our “need to know” has to be considered. There is some danger due to war reporting, since it can reveal tactics, locations and other data that can be used by the Russians against Ukraine.

Give me a break. Have you ever been involved in a war? Reporters are given the requisite security guidelines. And their access to information and battlefield information is restricted. The American people have a right to know what is going on and how their money is being spent.

And it can be used to demoralize and sway public opinion against those who are fighting, as was the case in Vietnam, for one example, with the nightly new here reporting against the military and against the war.

Initially, that was not the case. But as the war went on, the support for the war declined. The difference between then and now is that we now have a MSM that supports the war and repeats the USG/Ukraine propaganda. We now know that the USG was actively involved with social media to censor anti-war comments about Ukraine. That said, the majority of the Americans are now against an open-ended commitment to Ukraine and unlimited aid.

33 posted on 10/10/2023 9:02:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
We have troops in various places and you don’t see any of that on the nightly news, do you? Rarely, if ever.

You barely saw any Afghanistan coverage when Americans were fighting there recently and now that we bailed from there? Nothing. Same for Syria and other places in the M.E. Rarely do they make the news here.

Such is the nature of American media. And that’s one good reason for Ukraine to not want American reporters with them at whatever battle is taking place. They just can’t trust them or their fake news. I know I don’t trust them.

37 posted on 10/10/2023 10:07:34 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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