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1 posted on 10/09/2023 10:19:18 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Bomb them too


2 posted on 10/09/2023 10:20:05 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: McGruff

Somebody let it happen to take Bibi down.


3 posted on 10/09/2023 10:21:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

Is Netanyahu Israel’s version of Biden? He has sure failed.


4 posted on 10/09/2023 10:21:56 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: McGruff

Bibi may be poorly served by some of his government officials that he depends upon but he is not Mitt Romney in a yarmulke.
I thought Israel really used that 10th man method in assessing threats and preparing for them. The one where if nine of your advisors think in one mind, it is the duty of the 10th to disagree and fully prepare for that outcome as well, implausible or unpleasant as it may be.


6 posted on 10/09/2023 10:27:53 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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To: McGruff

I’m not a Netanyahu booster, and he’s a shrewd operatator, but there is no way he let this happen to his people. Almost nobody believes that.

But still - how did they plan, stage and execute something of this magnitude and not get seen? Hundreds, thousands really, had to have known.

I just don’t get it.


14 posted on 10/09/2023 10:33:56 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: McGruff

The King of Jordan personally warned Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan about the impending 1973 war. How’d that work out?


17 posted on 10/09/2023 10:35:04 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: McGruff
What Israel underestimated was the level of demonic savagery that their enemy would stoop so low to inflict upon innocents.

Normalcy bias is now gone forever.

This is now on like never before as a matter of survival on a literal biblical scale.

The entire world best be right with Jesus about now.

The most epic moment of all our lives is just warming up.

25 posted on 10/09/2023 10:42:02 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: McGruff

Like Pearl Harbor warnings from the cracked Japanese Embassy Code before the actual 12/07/1941 attack.


26 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Flu vaccines, work great if you’ve never had that flu! Otherwise they don't do any good/nor work!!!)
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To: McGruff
The Biden Junta withheld vital intelligence information from Israel.

27 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:11 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Lord, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: McGruff

An Israeli official the other day indicated that Israel’s SIGINT operation (pound for pound the best in the world) was not able to take advantage of as much intel as they normally get, because Iran/Hamas etc. know this and rather than communicate over the air, they used couriers and other means that weren’t susceptible to interception.


28 posted on 10/09/2023 10:45:24 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: McGruff

Focused on the Climate Crisis and ignored everything else ?


36 posted on 10/09/2023 10:57:58 AM PDT by butlerweave
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That was then, this is now. Now it’s time to just wipe Hamas off the face of the earth. When that’s done, bulldoze the Gaza strip. The latter probably won’t happen but that would be idea.


41 posted on 10/09/2023 10:59:34 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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The Palestinians have excellent operational security. So, probably the Egyptians and the Americans noticed things in, say, traffic analysis, but nothing specific. Unless you have something specific the Israelis can look at and verify, then you can warn until you’re blue in the face. The Israelis might have perked up and tried to find something but it’s still possible nobody had any clue what was about to actually happen. We got nine-elevened. In retrospect all the clues where there but nobody put them into a coherent picture. You simply can’t be ready for EVERYTHING.

Stalin had multiple warnings about the impending German invasion, including a German communist who swam across a river to warn the Russians. Stalin simply didn’t believe such a thing could happen. I don’t think that’s an Israeli problem, but what did happen was so far out of proportion to previous attacks I can see where even if they were warned ahead of time, they wouldn’t believe it. Also, think normalcy bias.


51 posted on 10/09/2023 11:21:44 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Hindsight is 20/20, but wouldn’t you think that the 50 year ANNIVERSARY, to the DAY, of the Yom Kippur War, would expected to be a red flag warning? Methinks Bibi’s advisors are trying to “Trump” him. Like Trump haters, they couldn’t care less who gets hurt; they only care to destroy him.


53 posted on 10/09/2023 11:30:35 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: McGruff

NOT sure I am buying this story.....


57 posted on 10/09/2023 11:39:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: McGruff

bttt


61 posted on 10/09/2023 12:13:54 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Egypt has denied they warned Israel


63 posted on 10/09/2023 12:43:55 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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After 9/11, the Syrian state press started a rumor Jews in New York were told to stay home that day. It is easier for anonymous officials to claim they gave prior warning after the fact of than to publicly give warning beforehand.


70 posted on 10/09/2023 1:48:35 PM PDT by Widget Jr (9/11 - 11/M - 10/7)
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I’m not sure which media company it was, but I saw an interview where it was said there was a cyber-attack from Iran on Israeli defenses that hampered their response to the initial reports of Hamas breaking into Israel.* I’m sure the rocket attacks were also distracting the Israelis.

*If true, Iran needs to lose some major assets. I’d start with their refineries, as they are a refined products importer. Next take out their refined products import terminals. That would actually increase global supply of crude oil a bit.


73 posted on 10/09/2023 2:44:39 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: McGruff

NYP is owned by rupert Murdoch.
They not so reliable any more


74 posted on 10/09/2023 3:56:00 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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