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To: shalom aleichem

RFK is an old line Demcorat. Perot was both more populist, and to the right, of GHW Bush.

The dynamic is different in 2024 then it was in 1992.

I suspect there will be a 4th candidate run as a “No Labels” candidate. This is starting to feel a lot like the 1860s election to me.

In 1860 there were 2 Democrats. A Southerner Democrat John Breckenridge and a Northern Democrat Stephan Douglass. That lines up with RFK and Biden.

There was Abe Lincoln for the Repulicans. That would be Trump

There was a Constitutional Unionist Party candidate John Bell who oppose both the Dems and the GOP. My guess is that will be someone like Tulsi Gabbart or Joe Manchin


76 posted on 10/01/2023 7:54:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MNJohnnie

How bad to you see election fraud?


83 posted on 10/01/2023 8:03:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: MNJohnnie
Once people become more familiar with RFKjr's position on the issues, the bloom will be off the rose for voters on the right. He is a dyed in the wool liberal with extremist views. And he has a well-documented history.

Sundance thinks he is a CIA plant to weaken Trump.

Robert Kennedy Jr. to Run as Independent in 2024 Election

My thoughts are the same today as they were when we first discussed RFK Jr.

None of the Lightbringer’s supporters/voters and ballot harvesters are going to support RFK Jr. None of the leftists who follow social media or traditional media influence operations, the sheeple masses, are going to vote for RFK Jr. None of the party Democrats are going to vote for RFK Jr. None of the Gavin Newsom supporters are going to support RFK Jr. So, who will vote for RFK Jr?

ANSWER: Two core groups.

#1) Ron DeSantis supporters. When RdS drops out, his coalition of support, the Never Trump Republicans, will flow to RFK Jr.

#2) Approximately one-third of unregistered, unaffiliated or what we would call “independent” voters. About a third of them.

Independents will fracture into three subsets. Approximately 1/3 supporting Gavin Newsom. Approximately 1/3 supporting Donald Trump. Approximately 1/3 supporting Robert Kennedy Jr.

With DeSantis Republicans and one-third of independent voters, that’s the RFK Jr. coalition.

As I said from the outset, RFK Jr. is the intelligence community insurance policy against the threat of Donald Trump.

RFK Jr. running as an independent will tilt the election to Gavin Newsom.

Stop thinking about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden. Unfortunately, this will be the narrative; this will be what is polled. However, Joe Biden will not be the DNC nominee.

The correct question is, what does RFK Jr. running as an independent do to the 2024 contest when it is Gavin Newsom -vs- Donald Trump?

In that scenario, the motives and intentions of RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, because Joe Biden is a blithering idiot, disappears. Democrats will happily stick with Newsom…. which is exactly why his visibility is everywhere right now. It’s an op.

RFK Jr. running as an independent, is part of that op.

88 posted on 10/01/2023 8:18:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: MNJohnnie; Alas Babylon!; rodguy911

I’ve been involved in several 3 way candidate races and the odds are tough calculus. It is hard to see from whom votes will be drawn abd to whom they will flow.

There is a growing appetite in the land to stop funding and starting endless wars. Bobby and Tulsi is there. Trump is waffling saying all ha wants is to stop the killing. He will not commit to stopping the Ukraine open checkbook, but lapses back into a lengthy “this war would never have happened if I were in office...”.

I am and always have been for Trump but he has to get his head out of the past and correctly select his lanes on the major issues that will be in play.


98 posted on 10/01/2023 8:42:10 AM PDT by shalom aleichem (Sick 'n Tired! Tell us wnat to DO about it! He also threw in"veterans". Oddly I belive the milirar)
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