Posted on 09/30/2023 7:03:09 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
The lesson we should take from history is from our first president, when he told us to stay out of entangling alliances. Wise man, that Washington.
Europe is NOT our problem. The feckless Euros have never played well in the sandbox together, and when they can’t get along they call on the US to rescue them, time and time and time again. I’m for dissolving NATO and all other alliances and really being America first. Keep the sea lines of communication open for trade that is in our interest, close the border, and let the rest of the world muddle along, if they can. IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM!
NATO used to be a defensive organization. That changed when they bombed Serbia. Before that they had already taken sides in the Balkans as a "peacekeeper". They decided to "keep the peace" by allowing ethnic purges.
NATO has stolen NOTHING from Russia.
NATO has stolen from Russians by allowing the Baltics to "deRussianize", e.g. ban teaching Russian in schools under NATO protection. The Baltic states would say they are deSovietizing and they were the victims in the past. That's all true, but that doesn't justify reverse ethnic cleansing. Peaceful ethnic cleansing is still ethnic cleansing, and in Ukraine the ethnic cleansing wasn't peaceful before Russia attacked.
WWII made America the richest nation in the entire history of planet earth!
WWIII won't have that same effect. The crux of the issue is how to contain Russian without them waiting a few decades and coming back stronger than ever. We lack a long term plan.
-——Vladimir Putin’s overarching strategic objective is now-——
Survival
His overarching objective is to merely survive the debacle he has wrought
NATO needs to be dismantled. It accomplished its mission 32 years ago. Now it’s a globalist warmongering bureaucracy.
George Washington is the best known and the original American Isolationist.
His followers today are the new breed, the neo isolationists who lack the vision to see beyond their own county lines.
Washington’s contemporaries were men of the world
Yes I read it. Why do you ask?
Lets recao.
You said the war wasn’t because of nato.
I said the head of nato says it is because of NATO and posted what I did.
Hope this helps.
NATO has become a greedy empire.
They want to expand to Asia with an office in Japan.
Lace up the boots and go fight for Ukraine, Rambo. If you can’t see this is nothing more than corporate welfare for the MIC and a Croft for corrupt politicians, then maybe don’t vote in 2024.
Blah blah blah isolationist drivel yada yada yada
Russia is not going to take over Eastern Europe, and Germany depends on Putin to power their economy. Wake up, Chicken Hawk.
sad, but (I fear) true...
Here’s hoping Kosovo gets SMASHED, and neocons like you are weeping over dead Muzloid heathen corpses and your fake nation.
Bush ghouls, harpies and globaloids will piss and weep, which will be lots and lots of fun to watch.
I like bert but think of him as a cross between the actual Bert on “I Love Lucy” and Bill Kristol.
Then his st000pit azz postings kinda make a little sense.
Reverend Wright, you said:
“NATO is an anti-Russian alliance, but NATO is not a hostile alliance to an enemy country...????”
My answer:
Read again what I said previously.
I said : Unlike Russia, NATO has never ANNEXED territories by force and violence and declared “this is NATO-land now”!
We can agree on that right?
Also as everyone knows from our history lessons :
Russia had stolen half of Europe for many decades, including the Baltic States (!). When the infamous Russian WALL finally got teared down and the Kremlin colonialist regime imploded, all those eastern countries previously stolen and/or under Russian control, finally got their freedom again.
They knew though that Russia would one day COME BACK with its usual neocon warmongering and for-ever-wars (which Russia indeed started to do again from 2014 and beyond). That’s why those small defenseless eastern nations demanded NATO’s protection, in order to not be invaded AGAIN!
And it worked! NATO’s defensive structure managed to stop Russia to steal back all those Eastern European nations.
HOWEVER (!) every sovereign eastern country not yet in NATO’s protective umbrella, have ALL(!) been invaded by Russia! Yes: Georgia, Moldova, Crimea, Ukraine...
THUS, we can agree that NATO defensive mechanism works!
NATO has ZERO interest, will, or structure to annex Russia other other countries. Even Putin knows that.
About YUGOSLAVIA.
Again, that country is a free nation. It is NOT controlled by either America, the EU or NATO. Pretending otherwise is pure missinformation.
The NATO bombings that happened there were done only after endless discussions and negotiations were held with Serbia trying to make them stop the killings of their own people.
Unfortunately, the Soviet-inspired bloodthirsty communist apparatchik called MILOSEVIC continued the organized mass executions of civilians.
THAT triggered NATO to act. But again:
Unlike what Russia did in Ukraine, NATO didn’t put NATO troops on the ground in Serbia.
Unlike what Russia did to Ukraine, NATO didn’t invade Serbia.
Unlike what Russia did to Ukraine, NATO didn’t ANNEX Serbia.
Unlike what Russia did to Ukraine, NATO didn’t kidnap thousands of Serbian children.
Unlike what Russia did to Ukraine, NATO didn’t level (Grozny-style) entire villages and and towns in Serbia.
Unlike what Russia did to Ukraine, NATO didn’t purposely mass bomb civilian apartments and houses were regular citizens live and sleep.
How odd, I’ve always heard the US was a debtor nation.
You live in a past that was, is dead and gone.
The world is full of gas and oil and Russia is not the only source. The Gulf States and even Israel have pipelines to Europe on the drawing boards ready to go. The only reason for Russia to be in Syria was to prevent the pipelines from reality and eliminate the competition.
Post Czar Mother Russia is withering to nothingness. The world has decided. No more Russian menace
Kosovo is Serbia!
Republika Srpska is Serbia!
Montenegro is Serbia!
The NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999, and the forcible detachment of Serbian lands by the clintons and their successors are war crimes!!!
Poland, Hungary, and Russian areas of “Ukraine” are being hurt by biden/Zelensky/obama’s war! So are all members of the true Orthodox Church of Ukraine, under Metropolitan Onuphry! This must all be reversed!!
Now this NeoCon defends the Serbia bombing.
What about the Iraq War or the Bush/Clinton Somalia fiasco ?
Is there any Globalist war stupidity you won’t defend ?
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