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Robert Barnes's Brief on the Inapplicability of the 14th Amendment to Donald Trump
Barnes Brief (sent to subscribers) ^ | 9/15/2023 | Robert Barnes

Posted on 09/15/2023 2:37:25 PM PDT by LS

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1 posted on 09/15/2023 2:37:25 PM PDT by LS
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Barnes had better watch out. He may be indicted for writing this essay on the inapplicability of the 14th Amendment.


2 posted on 09/15/2023 2:42:40 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: LS

“section 5 clarifies who can enforce this provision...”

Section 5 doesn’t prevent a court from enforcing Section 1 and there is no reason why it would prevent a court from trying to enforce Section 3.

A court in New Mexico has barred (and tossed out) a J6 defendant from public office.


3 posted on 09/15/2023 2:46:26 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: LS

I have for years called for Biden to be tossed from office by a court for violating via his Brady Bill vote the Amendment VI right of Americans to be secure in the possession of their firearms.


4 posted on 09/15/2023 2:48:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Amendment IV right


5 posted on 09/15/2023 2:51:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: LS

Yep!

Moreover, several former Confederates held office under the United States!!


6 posted on 09/15/2023 2:58:36 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: LS

the 14th Amendment is not applicable at all to this situation now
except that PDJT is patently being denied proper equal protection and due process of the law


7 posted on 09/15/2023 2:59:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: LS

So the president is not considered an officer of the United States?


8 posted on 09/15/2023 3:02:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I'll listen to any senior faculty member of a top law school regarding this cr@p with DJT. But the ones I'll listen to most closely are Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley.
9 posted on 09/15/2023 3:03:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: LS

John Bachelor had an interview on his radio program with Richard Epstein of the Hoover Institution on this topic the other night.

For anyone so inclined, no. one with a link to no. 2 (both short):

https://audioboom.com/posts/8367029-1-2-potus-the-14th-amendment-and-insurrection-richard-epstein-the-hoover-institution


10 posted on 09/15/2023 3:05:20 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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The democRATS could care less about what applies, does not apply, and/or has nothing to do with anything. The democRATS already ignore any and all rules, regulations and laws if they decide to. Without a conscience and a soul, anything is possible. They will dream up laws, and ‘create’ evidence. They attempted the tried-and-true sexual accusations against President Trump. He laughed, and immediately ATTACKED. None of the ‘stories’ they created were true.

What really irks and drives the them crazy, the Left, the Deep State, the Ruling Class, is that President Trump never stops fighting, keeps telling the truth, has enough money* to fight hard, and, as Rush often reminds us, has FUN doing it.

*money. President Trump has money the old fashioned way, he earned it. So, so many democRATS enter office without much money, and.... Shazam, they are rolling in doe (other people’s money).


11 posted on 09/15/2023 3:11:37 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

You confuse DemoKKKrats with courts. Yes, courts do still care. Not all, but many otherwise you and I wouldn’t even be talking.


12 posted on 09/15/2023 3:12:40 PM PDT by LS
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Not under the stipulations of the 14th Amendment which CLEARLY excludes him.

What Barnes didn’t mention was that to include the “President” as an office would have lent legitimacy to Jeff Davis. To the drafter of the 14th, the only “President” was Lincoln and, by extension, unfortunately, Johnson. But no, not under this definition. Law clearly looks at precision in wording . . . when it works right.


13 posted on 09/15/2023 3:14:22 PM PDT by LS
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You cite the only example in history, so far, where this worked, and I would suggest that that person did not appeal. If he had, he would have won because higher courts ruled in favor of both MTG and Madison Cawthorne in exactly the same cases.


14 posted on 09/15/2023 3:15:46 PM PDT by LS
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To: Dan in Wichita

He knows. He has spoken up for Alex Jones many times.


15 posted on 09/15/2023 3:16:10 PM PDT by LS
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To: LS

it does apply to biden


16 posted on 09/15/2023 3:34:10 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: LS

It doesn’t say how it is determined that someone engaged in insurrection or rebellion. Of course when the amendment was adopted everyone knew it meant Confederates. But it doesn’t say you have to be convicted in a court of law. So perhaps being accused on TV by a Congressman of the opposing party is sufficient grounds to bar someone. Some states could try that.


17 posted on 09/15/2023 3:35:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Thanks for all of your answers and questions re:

Robert Barnes’s Brief on the Inapplicability of the 14th Amendment to Donald Trump
Barnes Brief (sent to subscribers) ^ | 9/15/2023 | Robert Barnes

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182692/posts


18 posted on 09/15/2023 3:47:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Georgia just crystallized Trump’s campaign with a a-free image winning him nomination!))
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To: Dan in Wichita

Barnes won’t mind, he discusses it frequently on Viva Frei’s channel. As for the NM low level Republican that resigned, he was asked to resign and did so. He didn’t bother to fight, probably because it was a very low level position and not worth the headache. All he did was attend J6, no arrest, no violence.

It’s obvious they can’t remove Trump, otherwise they would have done so already. Dems need Trump to run because only TDS voters give them a chance to win. Without Trump on the ballot, millions will stay home like they did pre-Trump. There are fewer TDS voters than 2020 thanks to Biden’s performance and the death of corporate media. YouTube influencers are reaching more folks than corporate media ever did. And their message isn’t towing the ‘dem party line’.

One example: CartierFamily channel. 800k subscribers. 4 young black men ‘reacting’ to videos. They used to be democrats until recently. They watch Prager U, History of slavery, What are we doing to white people, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder on the Breakfast Club, etc. There are many channels like this and they are inadvertently educating others while learning themselves.

I’m assuming capitalism was the instigator to choose these subjects. These boys knew nothing about politics starting out. They started the channel to review music videos. To gain more viewers they expanded the subjects to ‘react’ to. They are not alone.


19 posted on 09/15/2023 4:05:06 PM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Dan in Wichita; LS

Ignore my last post, it was meant for LS. Sorry about that.


20 posted on 09/15/2023 4:07:42 PM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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