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To: Lean-Right

Wow.

That is quite a screed.

😎

China now leads Europe and America, outside of Tesla.


15 posted on 09/15/2023 1:13:24 AM PDT by cba123 (Tôi là người Mỹ. Hiện tôi đang ở Việt Nam)
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To: cba123

China has flooded the EV market.
There are thousands of electric
powered autos parked in vast fields
with no buyers in sight.
Sorry I’m unable to post a pic,
but it’s been brought up here
on FR previously.
I would guess the same will
happen here as the government,
with their imposed mandates
are going to hit a brick wall
of consumer acceptance.
EV’s are just beginning to
stack up on dealer lots.
Uncertainty about buying into
a forced technology that goes
against the very fabric of
what America is all about.
Freedom.
Half the country will gladly
accept the confines. Half the
country will tell the EV pushers
to take a flying leap at a
rolling donut.
The end result...devide and
concor. Such is true with all
of politics these days.


20 posted on 09/15/2023 3:58:47 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: cba123; Lean-Right

What Lean-Right stated wasn’t a screed. A screed is generally (in current use) a derogatory term to describe a statement that is wholly based in emotion, negative in nature, and not based in fact.

Synonyms for screed are: rant, tirade, diatribe, harangue, polemic, speech, passage, philippic, condemnation, invective, fulmination, jeremiad, criticism, admonishment, denunciation, admonition, lecture, vituperation, broadside, reproval, tongue-lashing, reprimand, castigation, rebuke, censure, upbraiding, reproof, berating, obloquy, abuse.

All those are pretty defamatory and inflammatory in civil discourse, so, I wouldn’t agree with the characterization as a screed, I don’t see it as appropriate or useful. But that is just me.

As for EVs, I don’t doubt that an electric car is the choice you wish to make in your urban environment...and there is nothing wrong with that. It is your choice. (And it should be)

The discussions many of us have with disagreements over the utility of EVs based on performance, safety, environmental impact and such, are separate from the discussion of an “expensive source of energy from early LAST century”. That is a wholly different argument, that, even if they solve the issues with both battery safety and battery performance, DO NOT GO AWAY.

Even if they solve the battery problems of safety, weight, performance, environmental impact, availability of charging stations, and time required to charge batteries, those batteries will STILL have to be charged with electricity, and that electricity is going to have to be generated in SOME fashion.

And it won’t be with windmills or solar power.

It is going to be Gas, Oil, Coal, Nuclear, or Hydropower, all of which are “expensive sources of energy from early LAST century”. (Hydropower from even earlier, but you get the point.)

And that is only one aspect, that is, what process or substance is used to CREATE the electricity that is used to charge batteries in electric cars. The other key part is getting the electicity FROM the location it is generated in TO the area where a charger exists in the form of power lines, transformers, etc, are not even being addressed.

And THAT aspect is being wholly ignored as well.

Those two aspects, having the electricity generation capacity to handle hundreds of millions of electric cars, and a dependable power grid to deliver the electicity to charging stations, are not only not being addressed, they are being deliberately suppressed in the West.

In Communist China, the ChiComs are building scads of coal, gas, and oil plants to power industry. We are deliberately making it difficult or impossible to build ANY kind of new electricity generation, and the reliability our our energy grid is in poor shape. We won’t even spend the SMALL money (relatively speaking) to harden it even against a naturally occuring EMP event like the Carrington Event in 1859 that if it happened today, would DESTROY our society. We can protect against that to a degree, but we won’t even spend the money to do that.

Advocates of zero emission policies are setting us up to commit economic (and as a result, societal) suicide. And the real problem we have as conservatives isn’t someone like you who might rightfully have the right and the choice to select an extremely limited technology such as EV because it happens to be the right choice for you, but that governments will mandate the move to this choice due to outright lies such as “climate change” or envionmental impact.

The are herding us, using regulation and government mandates, as hunters once did swaths of buffalo, towards a cliff to force us to jump of by the force of the buffalo behind us.


28 posted on 09/15/2023 5:54:27 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: cba123

Who care if China is “far ahead” in this electric golf cart race.

we have plenty of oil/gas to keep us going for a long time so long as we get the gov’t out of our way.

China can build all the EV’s they want and FORCE their people to drive them.

Companies need to build products that people WANT, not have some product we DON’T want forced down our thoats.


34 posted on 09/15/2023 7:25:16 AM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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