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Victor Davis Hanson: What the Left Did to Our Country
American Greatness ^ | 4 Sep, 2023 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/04/2023 4:44:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: srmanuel

Ronald Reagan is a national treasure so the following is not a criticism at all, but rather a statement of harsh reality: Reagan did not pick Bush to “unify the Republican party” - he picked Bush because the Deep State has had everyone more or less by the balls since 1960, even Ronald Reagan.

Here’s some Deep State history:

In 1960, Eisenhower issued a strong warning in his farewell address - here are some excerpts. .

“….we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions.”

“….we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.”

“…The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.”

Eisenhower was talking about what we now call the Deep State, and we now know that his warnings were too late. We must look back suspiciously at the events of the past 70 years, and consider it very likely that the Deep State was pulling the strings.

Did they steal the 1960 election?
Did they assassinate the Kennedys?
Did they sideline Johnson in 1968?
Did they railroad Nixon in 1974?

Did they force Reagan to choose CIA director Bush as VP in 1980?

I think the answer is “yes” to all of the above.

Here is another bit of Deep State history:

After 9/11, 2001, the Patriot Act was passed and The Department of Homeland Security was created, basically putting the Military Industrial Complex on steroids. And who was President? The son of the man you say Reagan picked to “unite the party”.

See, you people constantly hold Trump to a false double standard.

Reagan is forced to pick a disastrous Deep State VP, and a mostly RINO Cabinet, and you say he’s “uniting the party”.

Trump is forced to pick a disastrous Deep State VP, and a mostly RINO cabinet, and you say he’s “his own worst enemy” or “a poor judge of character”.

Cam’t you see that 40 years later Trump is facing the same Deep State, but if anything 10 times worse?

Can’t you see Trump is not the problem here?

So, spare me your lectures about what’s wrong with Trump until you can find someone better to lead the charge.


121 posted on 09/05/2023 6:36:04 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: GOPJ

It is funny how the whole born in Iran fact just gets left out of the CBS article.


122 posted on 09/05/2023 6:52:35 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: enumerated

Let’s see Trump picked a great AG in Bill Barr and FBI director who are as deep state as you can get and began the lawfare that is now used against him, he picked a great couple of doctors to run his Covid response, and enriched Big Pharma beyond their wildest dreams, his actions led to lock downs, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, led to unjust changes to election laws which likely cost him re-election, crushed the economy, started the uncontrolled spending this is still going and is crushing the average American, and eviscerated the constitution.

Spare me the lectures on why Trump is the only one who can lead the charge.

I would say any Republican not under 4 criminal indictments would be a better choice, considering Trump’s actions led to the 4 criminal indictments.


123 posted on 09/05/2023 7:05:10 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

“…Trump’s actions led to the 4 criminal indictments.”

So you think Trump is guilty - these are not bogus charges?

You finally gave yourself away Troll.

ESAD, I have no use for you.


124 posted on 09/05/2023 7:22:02 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

BTW, the truth hurts sometimes.

What’s been revealed is what you are, I’ve never personally insulted you and have debated without personal insults which you have now done.

I never said Trump was guilty that is your emotions speaking, yes, the charges are 100% bogus, they never should have happened.

None of the reduces the fact the charges are real and serious.

Thanks, my job is now complete.


125 posted on 09/05/2023 7:29:58 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

“I never said Trump was guilty”

You said his actions led to him being indicted - same thing.

Look, you say things, then you deny you said them - I’m done with you.

As for the insults, you said it yourself… the truth hurts sometimes.


126 posted on 09/05/2023 7:45:17 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

Being charged is not guilt, basic legal stuff which you know, what have I denied saying but the insults are real.

What is often revealed here on FR when the debate turns to personal insults which you’ve engaged in then the person has nothing further to say because they’re arguments have been successfully challenged

Thanks for playing along it wasn’t easy to crack you


127 posted on 09/05/2023 8:08:52 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

Stop gaslighting.

You said that Trump’s actions led to the indictments.
Then you said they were bogus charges.

Which is it? It can’t be both.

Bogus charges are not a consequence of the actions of the accused - they are a consequence of malicious prosecution. That’s what makes them bogus. It’s basic logic.

Again you say something and then deny you said it.

This is is dishonest, and if you keep it up I might have to insult you again LOL.


128 posted on 09/05/2023 8:25:26 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

It’s absolutely true what I said but your emotional response won’t allow you to understand it

Did Trump mishandled classified documents, maybe but he definitely had them when he didn’t have to

Do Trump do everything in his power to protest the Georgia election, yes, were his actions illegal we will find out

Did Trump encourage the rally on 1/6 YES again, is that illegal, we will find out

Did Trump overvalue his real estate holdings, perhaps but a court will find out

His actions led directly to his indictments, in a sane world the charges would never happen but you can’t grasp the Democrats will do anything to derail the Trump movement

BTW, logic is your friend use it sometimes


129 posted on 09/05/2023 8:42:10 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: KC Burke

She was born to American parents so where she was born isn’t an issue. Her father just had a job in Iran - she’s an American.


130 posted on 09/05/2023 8:43:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hunter Biden’s pet name for his father on his cellphone? It was “Pedo Peter”. -- Jim Hoft )
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To: srmanuel

You trolls pass yourselves off as past Trump supporters, bragging about being the first to board the Trump Train, but I don’t believe you.

Your last post was an anti Trump screed worthy of a DU democrat with full blown TRS.

Give it up - your BS comes through loud and clear.


131 posted on 09/05/2023 8:49:42 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

I swear this place is full of trolls and cranks. You can say it’s Tuesday and several jerks will start screaming at you that it’s Thursday.


132 posted on 09/05/2023 8:51:33 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: enumerated

Again emotional responses are not becoming of you

BTW, I actually volunteered for the Trump campaign in 2020, I probably made a few hundred phone calls to rally support and answer questions from voters.

What did you do to help his reelection??

BTW, I followed my own advice and don’t put all my hopes in one person


133 posted on 09/05/2023 8:56:29 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Luke21

Their circular reasoning is quite impressive - it can go on for several iterations until you give up and get off the merry-go-round.

What I can’t figure out is whether they are trained in gaslighting, or whether the circular reasoning just comes naturally as a result of low IQ.


134 posted on 09/05/2023 9:06:00 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: caddie

Bullshit.


135 posted on 09/06/2023 2:38:30 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Oh, trust me, even if he DID go out of his way to bash the “old progressives” like Theodore Roosevelt, he’d STILL be off the mark as to where the rot started. You want the actual start? Try Horace Mann. Heck, better yet, try Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine, and in fact, Thomas Jefferson was one of the first people to actually PROPOSE a progressive tax system, well before the 16th amendment was a reality. https://www.civicsnation.org/2018/05/23/thomas-jefferson-invented-progressive-taxation/

https://www.theblaze.com/contributions/why-liberals-think-being-educated-means-being-liberal

https://thekeep.eiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4779&context=theses


136 posted on 12/25/2023 6:03:28 PM PST by otness_e
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