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To: Olog-hai
Funny you acknowledge fraud and still say this, with all due respect. Trump won 2020.

Believing this while changing nothing else will ensure that Trump, once again, "wins the election" only to return home to Mar-A-Lago (or prison).

28 posted on 08/30/2023 10:17:28 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: Drew68
He still did win 2020, no scare quotes. Biden is properly termed a usurper.

One needs power to “change (aught) else”, i.e. dismantle a criminal dictatorship. Those who we thought on our side turned and showed their true colors at the last second, one of the most egregious being Mike Pence who sounded like he was eager to save his vice presidency on January 4, 2021:
“I know we all have got our doubts about the last election. I want to assure you that I share the concerns of millions of Americans about voting irregularities. I promise you, come this Wednesday, we will have our day in Congress!”
And no, none of these people were obviously on the side of the deep state, whose existence many on the conservative pundit side were denying even after the 1/6/21 debacle.
30 posted on 08/30/2023 10:24:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Drew68

Unless 2020 is “fixed” we will spend the rest of our lives, our children’s lives, and those of our grandchildren “electing” presidents just like the USSR did for 70 years


32 posted on 08/30/2023 10:25:30 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Drew68

Agreed. We’ve got to be very specific on what fraud exactly happened:

-Zuccbucks installing local officials to “fortify” the election. Solution: Outright ban it in states where we can, and in states where we can’t, lawyers on the ground in advance AND money of our own to install good poll workers. This wasn’t even attempted last time. We did this WELL in Bush 2000 which successfully prevented a steal in Florida. Look up the Brooks Brothers Riot

-Social media censorship that brainwashed people. There were people who indeed did legitimately vote for Biden, because they thought Trump was a literal goose-stepping Nazi from the Indiana Jones movies, or something. Solution: we’re in a better environment now that Elon has bought Twitter. Use new platforms like Rumble and podcasting services to get our messages out

-We previously almost actively discouraged early voting. This allowed Arizona to conveniently “malfunction” voting machines in 2022 in red precincts on election day. Solution: encourage early voting. We almost flipped NY in 2022, and probably would have if a bunch of conservatives hadn’t moved to Florida in 2020-2021.

The whole Sidney Powell kraken nonsense was a total waste of our time, and if anything, the left probably LOVED it since it ended up being a great distraction to the three big fraud issues that I outlined above. Ronna McDaniel has got to go. All she does is lose for us. She hasn’t addressed any of those issues. And, it’s another red flag for me for Trump since he didn’t call for her replacement when we had a chance.

Look, I fully agree with a bunch here that there were shenanigans in 2020. We either adapt to that reality and FIX those issues and learn how to play on the new terrain, or we’re wasting our time. I know some seem to be content to say “well it’s all rigged so it doesn’t matter”, but that’s not good enough for me. This is my country and I want to win.


36 posted on 08/30/2023 10:31:01 AM PDT by ksm1
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