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What Israel’s Military Provides to the USA-How Ramaswamy’s stance on American aid to Israel falls short.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | August 29, 2023 | Hugh Fitzgerald

Posted on 08/29/2023 5:55:07 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: cowboyusa

You liked that one, eh? 🤣🤣🤣


41 posted on 08/29/2023 1:14:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You turned your back on the LORD, you admitted it.


42 posted on 08/29/2023 2:15:47 PM PDT by cowboyusa (UA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Turn back.


43 posted on 08/29/2023 3:38:27 PM PDT by cowboyusa (UA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: SJackson

BTTT


45 posted on 08/29/2023 10:25:48 PM PDT by nopardons ( )
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To: SJackson

Trump Was Far From the Most Pro-Israel U.S. President Ever

In many ways, Trump’s actions weakened both Israel’s security and that of the Jewish community in the United States.

Continues at:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/19/trump-pro-israel-truth-social-netanyahu-abraham-accords/


46 posted on 08/30/2023 5:14:56 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: escapefromboston

I don’t disagree.

There’s also a slightly crony capitalist reason for the vast majority of the aid and what it is spent on.

My country has a very advanced aerospace industry and is quite capable of making 5th or 6th generation fighters.

Much of the aid is targeted and conditioned on our not developing such equipment so as to prevent a competitor to USA fighters.

Basically, it’s “here’s some F35s so you don’t make something better or cheaper and squeeze us out of the market.”


47 posted on 08/30/2023 6:25:59 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: iontheball

“ looks like a laundering scheme of our taxpayer dollars to big U.S. weapons manufacturers. We give them taxpayer dollars, calling it aid, and they launder it back by buying military equipment from the civilian military-industrial complex.”

Pretty much. See my post above for additional detail.


48 posted on 08/30/2023 6:26:51 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: nitzy

“Israel is a direct threat to me and my children. They have been engaging in espionage against us and directing our foreign policy for decades.”

You do know the USA used our taxpayer money to openly sway elections in Israel and has been funding anti-democratic riots in Israel to keep Biden’s Leftist cronies and judges in absolute power in Israel, right?

I can’t blame Israel for spying.

We spy on Israel. We spy on England. England spies on us. Canada spies on us. All countries spy.

In fact, to get around Constitutional protections for Americans, our government partners with the “Five Eyes” to have Britain, France, Germany, etc spy on Americans.


49 posted on 08/30/2023 7:14:20 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: SJackson

TBH we have to look after America first, not foreign countries.


50 posted on 08/31/2023 6:20:16 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: cowboyusa; Extremely Extreme Extremist; nitzy
You turned your back on the LORD, you admitted it.

EEE said no such thing.

Proverbs 15:32 — He that rejecteth instruction, despiseth his own soul: but he that yieldeth to reproof possesseth understanding.

Hebrews 10:31 — It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Now, what prompted you to quote these verses?

EEE simply saying "Well said" to post #32, which is critical of the nation-state of Israel.

In what possible sense is criticizing American foreign policy with regards to Israel somehow "rejecting instruction", or "falling into the hands of the living God"?

51 posted on 09/02/2023 6:27:35 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: ping jockey
I do not support Israel over some premelinialist beliefs. I support Israel because they are and have been for many decades, the only functioning democracy in the Middle East.

Why should a country being democratic matter (in principle) in terms of foreign policy?

They are so freedom minded in fact, that Arabs that live peacefully inside of Israel have more freedom than those that live anywhere else in the Islamic world.

So "freedom minded" that Israel is the most pro-LGBT country in the Middle East (and, judging by available stats, the host of the largest annual "Pride" events on continental Asia).

52 posted on 09/02/2023 6:35:06 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

He said he rejected the teachings of the LORD.


53 posted on 09/02/2023 7:23:41 AM PDT by cowboyusa (UA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: cowboyusa; Extremely Extreme Extremist
He said he rejected the teachings of the LORD.

Mind pointing out where?

Because I've looked at all of EEE's posts on this thread, and I see no such instance that could be classified as EEE "rejecting the teachings of the LORD".

54 posted on 09/02/2023 8:35:18 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: SJackson

I like Ramaswamy.

I especially like his articulateness and his youth.

But he’s wrong about this.

I hope he will adjust his thinking.


55 posted on 09/02/2023 8:42:03 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks for the assist


56 posted on 09/02/2023 8:55:24 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: cowboyusa; Extremely Extreme Extremist
So, I actually did look up the apparent post in question. Underline is emphasis mine:

EEE stated the following: "Excuse me, I didn't become "vile" until certain people on the Left and various interest groups started calling whites evil and being responsible for everything that was wrong in the world. That's when the light bulb went off and my previous philosophy of loving everyone per my savior Jesus Christ came both to a screeching halt and the record needle scratching. Sorry, I am a proud advocate for me and my people now. Don't care, call me names, it has no effect on me."

This is worth replying to in public instead of in private, because it's worth examining: even if it's poorly formulated, I don't think EEE's particular motive is inherently contrary to the teachings of Jesus, much less rooted in the desire to reject Jesus per se (because it would otherwise be rather odd that he would still call Jesus his Savior).

For starters, it is utterly reasonable to love your own and to defend them from slander or libel, especially when they (as a group) are being identified as the cause and source of all the world's evils.

Second, what does it mean "to love your enemies"? I would say, Biblically speaking, that it is to desire what is best for them in the order of salvation; as such, "loving your enemy" will differ in matter and appearance depending on what it is they need in order to be saved (some people need a soft hand, while others are so hardhearted that they will not yield to anything but proverbial fire and brimstone). The common conception in modern days of "love your enemies" stops at a shallow hippy 'love and peace' level, even if it means compromising with evil on matters of faith or morals.

Are you loving your enemy if you stay silent in the face of their own evil works? Are you loving your enemy if you do not offer moral correction in the face of objective immorality? And son.

As such, let's examine what EEE is actually saying: in response to white people (as a whole) being overwhelmingly castigated (politically and culturally) as the source of all evils, he has become a partisan in their favor. (Notice that this does not mean he is in favor of letting whites who commit evil go free, either.)

Does this automatically mean EEE is no longer willing to love his enemies in the Biblical sense? Is he no longer hopeful for the salvation of those who are racist against whites, or are otherwise disdainful of the Gospel? Is he actively willing that all such racists never repent?

I certainly don't think that's the case. After all, righteous anger, or a desire that evildoers face true justice, are not contrary to Christ's teaching to love our enemies.

We live in a society where popular conceptions of Jesus and His teachings have utterly poisoned catechesis, even among those who call themselves Christian. As such, in the interest of charity, it is inappropriate to immediately judge an apparent formulation or profession as rooted in an inherent desire to reject Jesus outright, as opposed to simply being an error in their doctrinal understanding.

57 posted on 09/02/2023 9:28:37 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

*”And son” should be “And so on.”


58 posted on 09/02/2023 9:30:13 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The teachings of YESHUA are hard. But true faith is Obedince.


59 posted on 09/02/2023 9:39:33 AM PDT by cowboyusa (UA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: cowboyusa; Extremely Extreme Extremist
I am not disputing that.

However, I am sincerely disagreeing that EEE's motive is inherently rooted in a desire to reject Jesus outright.

Let's look at it from another angle: when you call Communists godless, are you hating them? Or are you simply being truthful as to what their doctrine logically necessitates (contra those who profess that Jesus was a socialist, or would have supported Communism), and hence loving your enemy (for telling your enemies the truth is inherently charitable, even if the mode and manner can be defective)?

60 posted on 09/02/2023 9:56:07 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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