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Ron DeSantis was winner of the first 2024 Republican debate — the man best suited to unseat Trump
New York Post ^ | August 23, 2023 | Isaac Schorr

Posted on 08/24/2023 6:16:03 AM PDT by Reno89519

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To: redangus

I’m familiar with the concept but still stand by what I said. Not only have Americans long had a “cult of personality” for Washington, but many had a “cult of personality” for Churchill during WWII. The expression “cult of personality” was used (invented) by Khruschev relative to Stalin. People who bear no resemblance to Stalin include Washington, Lincoln, Churchill, Reagan and Trump, even if the silly words “cult of personality” might be applied to each.


181 posted on 08/24/2023 10:19:41 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: Reno89519

1) no Larry Elder, even though he qualified.

2) Ramasmarmy came off the best last night. DeSanctis came off ok but not great. No breakout moment.

3) you are a known Anti- and NeverTrumper. That alone requires due diligence and verification of anything you post.


182 posted on 08/24/2023 10:23:44 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: Reno89519

Dan Bongino said Vivek won and that DeSantis failed badly.


183 posted on 08/24/2023 10:26:07 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: redangus

The electability argument is a fraudulent one...

Its the go to argument the establishment trots out every time the electorate doesn’t follow their script.

Trump is the only candidate who has ANY shot at winning in the general election.

Why? Simple, he is the ONLY person to grow their support by over 17% while in office... there is NO ONE in the history of this country who got elected to the presidency who increased their vote totals in their re-election bid by 17%+ where there first election was not a 3 way race... NOBODY...

NOT Clinton, not Obama, not Nixon, not Bush, not Reagan, not FDR... NO ONE ELSE can make that claim. The only president to grow his support by that amount in 1 term ever... But he’s unelectable?

The unelectable were on the stage last night, not a single one of them has any shot at winning a national election.

Rust Belt, lastest poll of those states showed Trump beating Biden by 7 points... Desantis? Losses to Biden. Folks need to wake up to the “electability” lie....

Reality is if Trump can’t win, NO REPUBLICAN CAN WIN, PERIOD.

Establishment really needs to get a new playbook, they trotted that out in 15 too... They trot it out EVERY time the electorate doesn’t follow their script... the stupid “electability” lie is why we have a Stroke victim who cannot speak as a Senator for the state of PA...

Trump’s base is far larger than the GOP base, those conservative democrats, and moderates and disenfranchised that Trump brought to the table, they sure as hell are not going to show up for any other Republican.... So you can take Trump’s vote totals of more than 74 Million votes, and you are going to see the GOP candidate if its anyone else be around 60 Million at most.

GOP was an active participant in the fraud of 2020... You believe that Joe Biden got 19 Million more votes than Hillary Clinton or 22 Million more than Obama, you are naive.

Trump got nearly 25% more votes than ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IN HISTORY in 2016.. but he can’t win?

Folks need to wake up, No other candidate running with an R beside his name will net more than 60-65 Million votes on their best day.


184 posted on 08/24/2023 10:26:40 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Sorry that should be more than 25% more votes than any republican in history in 2020.


185 posted on 08/24/2023 10:27:36 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Toespi

Pence made me feel particularly uncomfortable; whenever he appears, I think “traitor.”


186 posted on 08/24/2023 10:28:23 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: sauropod

Clay Travis said Haley was in the top three.


187 posted on 08/24/2023 10:29:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: redangus
but those are two issues that are HUGE to millennials and Z’s.

Well, I guess the GOP isn't getting any of those votes.

188 posted on 08/24/2023 10:45:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

our problems are with the electorate, not the parties or candidates ...


189 posted on 08/24/2023 10:52:35 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Theodore R.

HA! When I see or hear him I think of Eli Gemstone.


190 posted on 08/24/2023 11:59:45 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Reno89519

I felt like fat Chrissy was a bigger loser and Trump hater than Meatball


191 posted on 08/24/2023 12:28:30 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: z3n

Haley did NOT win!

She came across to me as everybody’s ex-wife.

Hector, berate, and belittle.


192 posted on 08/24/2023 1:34:49 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: redangus

“So, you’re saying Trump voters won’t consider a person on their own merits just on whether the Donald approves of them.”

Sorry, but with these arrests DeSantis HAD A CHANCE to stand out and support Trump. He chose otherwise, to side with the DNC/Soros/Fanni Willis/the Neocons/Chris Christie/ and the Deep State.

So, no, DeSantis WILL NOT ever be president, at least until enough Trump voters die off. DeSantis chose a side regarding the Trump arrests, and he chose poorly - so he’s through.

But others still can be, if they simply choose to DEFEND Trump against this obvious railroading - that.


193 posted on 08/24/2023 5:53:33 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: cableguymn

“The flip side, does trump have a path to get DeSantis supporters? Because with out a doubt both men will need the others supporters in the general.”

That’s what makes me wonder about DeSantis - how he thought he could be successful without Trump voters.

Oh well, that’s life, live and learn.


194 posted on 08/24/2023 5:55:46 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: BobL

I can only guess is he thinks trump won’t be able to run.

Kinda a dumb hope but..


195 posted on 08/24/2023 8:54:05 PM PDT by cableguymn
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