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53 percent in new poll say they would not support Trump if he is GOP nominee
The Hill ^ | 8/16/2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 08/16/2023 5:16:26 AM PDT by MountainWalker

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To: Skwor

To quote myself, “They do pile on ...”

One poll is not dispositive. However, ask yourself why Trump can’t get above 50% with Republican primary voters. For someone who’s been a Republican president as well as declared candidate for the better part of a year, he still hasn’t persuaded half of all Republican primary voters to support him.


61 posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:17 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: MountainWalker

This is all being orchestrated by the evil Left to discourage and demoralize those on the Right. Don’t fall for it. We were told Trump could never win in 2016, yet he did. He also won re-election in 2020.


62 posted on 08/16/2023 6:40:50 AM PDT by Kharis13
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To: Bernard

Poll was conducted in Berkeley evidentlg


63 posted on 08/16/2023 6:43:37 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: MountainWalker

The Hill is just setting up the ‘Rat landslide of manufactured votes they know is coming. Also, hoping to scare off Trump supporters, just in case the ‘Rats can’t manufacture as many votes as needed.


64 posted on 08/16/2023 6:51:13 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: elenvee

Correlation is not causation, that Trump is not over 50% at this time can show equally as well that republican voters are careful critical thinkers, letting the process play out for the best candidate.

The other way to look at it is a non-sitting presidential candidate has the largest primary support ever seen leading up to the primaries.

Why should your opinion be any more valid than the one I just made up explaining trumps primary support?


65 posted on 08/16/2023 6:52:45 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: MountainWalker

Romney was my last “lesser of two evils” vote. I’ll never vote for another republican if Trump isn’t on the ballot.


66 posted on 08/16/2023 6:55:21 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: MountainWalker

So the brain prep begins. Tell the people a lie often enough and they will believe it.
Trump can’t win - more the 1/2 of voters don’t want Trump. Trump is a criminal.
Trump eats babies for breakfast.
Trump hates Jews.
Trump is a misogynist,
Trump is a Russian agent,
Trump never paid taxes....


67 posted on 08/16/2023 6:56:26 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (I am self employed - talking to myself is a staff meeting.)
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To: elenvee

Most Americans are not deeply into politics. I would guess most Republicans aren’t watching Bannon, Real America’s Voice, or any of the other Trump acolytes who are swirling around hoping to get back into government in another Trump administration. Lots of Republicans aren’t sycophants worshipping at the Trump shrine. And they aren’t RINOs, either.

Maybe they’ll look at a guy who’s almost 80 years old, who apparently spends most of his waking hours rehashing the past, nursing grudges, plotting his revenge, and dreaming up new smears and insults for his opponents. Maybe Republicans are getting tired of it.

As one commentator put it, Trump seems to go around stepping on every land mine that his enemies have laid for him. Jan. 6 was only one example—he Tweeted that the protest he was calling his followers to in Washington would be “wild.” So, the Democrats laid the trap and Trump fell right into it. The whole thing was a set-up and now dozens sit in jail rotting for years and the Democrats are laughing their heads off at how dumb and gullible Trump and his toadies were.

Trump is unelectable. The Democrats will push Biden aside and will install Newsom as the nominee. Low information voters will be impressed—a fresh, new face! And how will Republicans respond? With the same old Trump with all his baggage? Republicans who think this is a viable scenario are delusional.


68 posted on 08/16/2023 6:57:11 AM PDT by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: MountainWalker

Poll Trump has no chance if winning.
2016

All the media data in use.


69 posted on 08/16/2023 6:57:54 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: MountainWalker

Padded pole = fake news propaganda


70 posted on 08/16/2023 6:59:43 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: dfwgator; EQAndyBuzz

If Trump wins again, he is going to fire every department head in every agency as well as every federal prosecutor.

And replace them with who?


Ronna McRomney? Trump seems to be a fan of her.


71 posted on 08/16/2023 7:00:13 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Skwor

It’s not my opinion that in poll after poll 50% of Republican voters support another candidate.


72 posted on 08/16/2023 7:03:11 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: kenmcg
Concentrate, concentrate, victory lies with the electoral college.

Victory lies in preventing corrupt rigged elections in the swing states.

Nothing else will work.

73 posted on 08/16/2023 7:03:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MountainWalker

OH, YEAH, THE ASS PRESS COMES OUT FOR SOCIALISM/COMMUNISIM/FASCISM....WHAT A SURPRISE.


74 posted on 08/16/2023 7:05:18 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Reno89519
It’s one thing to defend Trump against persecution, and a very different thing to say whether we want to see him back in the White House for another four years.

Well we *DO* want him back in the white house for another four years. He is the best president of my lifetime, and I include Ronald Reagan in that.

Also, we need him to undertake a revenge campaign against all the corrupt officials in the government and the corrupt state election people.

75 posted on 08/16/2023 7:05:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PA Presbyterian

Yes, many FReepers are emotional instead of practical where Trump is concerned. And as the demographic of FReepers is skewing ever older,I think some of Trump’s support is just low-T curmudgeonly cheerleading: “Go Trump!” “He fights!” and my personal favorite, “SuperTrump is playing 4D chess!” It’s mindless bravado, because they’re scared of what the country is becoming.

They hate the establishment and see Trump as their weapon against it, without stopping to ask themselves when was the last time Trump won anything. For the reality-challenged, that would be 7 years ago. Since then the deep state has bent Trump over repeatedly and will continue to bend him over until they break him. That’s reality, something that is often in short supply here.

But say that out loud here and you’ll be accused of being everything but a decent human being. So be it.


76 posted on 08/16/2023 7:15:20 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: Skwor

The democrats have set Donald up perfectly. They know that by making him the nominee, they stand the best chances of winning big in ‘24. They know that he has a solid base that will sweep him to the nomination. But that base will not likely expand...and that it will not have coattails.

I haven’t read the indictment in GA yet, and I haven’t expressed an opinion on it. I do think that it’s dangerous for local county DAs to get entangled in this stuff. I also think it’s a joke to indict someone for something they think or said—especially if it is not in their jurisdiction.

The clumsy way this DA has driven this week’s events reinforces my perception of local county DAs as political wannabes and usually incompetent. The clerical “error” on Monday afternoon just screams that these people are nothing more than a comedy show—with some scary power.

I simply think it’s important to look at all of these polls with a skeptical eye. I spent years doing focus groups and reading surveys. One of the things that was important during that process was to make sure the information you are getting is accurate AND to deal with the issues—not try to explain away “why” the respondents did not understand what they felt.

People are going to feel what they feel—and that is the target. If they don’t feel the way you want them to, you need to work on your messagings and determine what could change their mind. Any poll suggesting 2/3 of the respondents are not likely to buy the product—even if the poll has flaws—doesn’t bode well for success.

I don’t like Trump. Not gonna vote for him.

—He is too old.
—He would be a lame duck on Day 1.
—He is likely to lose Congress.
—He becomes the target, instead of national issues.
—He won’t be able to attract good people for his cabinet/He is a horrible personnel manager.
—He is a “debt” guy. We need a fiscal conservative.


77 posted on 08/16/2023 7:17:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MountainWalker
Trump is actually less popular now with the general public than he was directly after January 6th.

So much winning.

78 posted on 08/16/2023 7:18:21 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: MountainWalker

Total Bullshit. Watch the rallies.


79 posted on 08/16/2023 7:19:04 AM PDT by Skul
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To: Sacajaweau
Trump a former president with 100% name recognition, can barely clear 50% support among Republican primary voters.

That is but one indication of how generally unpopular the man is

80 posted on 08/16/2023 7:20:50 AM PDT by hcmama
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