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53 percent in new poll say they would not support Trump if he is GOP nominee
The Hill ^ | 8/16/2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 08/16/2023 5:16:26 AM PDT by MountainWalker

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To: Skwor

I am talking about REALITY, not what I want to happen. I am also afraid for our country. But I am a retired military intelligence officer who either dealt in total reality, not wishful thinking, or people literally would die.

So I do not tell people what they want to hear; I tell them what they need to hear.So here’s some more reality for you. Have you read any of the indictments all the way through? I have.

Now ask yourself why Willis in Fulton county indicted 18 other people beside Trump. That’s because she’s betting that there are not 18 people willing to go to jail for a long time to save Trump. Hell, Jenna Ellis already said she lied about 2020 in March of this year in order to save her law license. She is definitely not willing to go to jail.

The end game for the Dems is to either sully Trump’s name to the point that Independents and squishy Republicans turn on him, to send him to jail, or barring that to put him on house arrest, to bankrupt his campaign with legal fees, and/or, to get him to drop out of the campaign in order to have charges dropped.

That is objective reality. I don’t like it any better than you do, but it is the reality.


101 posted on 08/16/2023 7:58:03 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: lodi90; dfwgator
The country is going to be paralyzed for another 5 years regardless of what happens in 2024. Trump is likely to get the nomination and won’t/can’t win. After he loses Dems will put him in jail.

You and ms. dfwgator should lie down and curl up into a little ball and wait for the end.

The rest of us Trump supporters will get him back and enjoy the revitalization of America.

102 posted on 08/16/2023 8:02:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: albie

Do you believe the polls showing Trump leading the GOP field by upwards of 40%? You really can’t discount pools you don’t like and promote those you do. That’s just a little hypocritical.

For the record I don’t believe either. I think Trump is leading the GOP field just because he has a solid constituency, but not to the tune of 40+%. And I image this was a national poll heavily weighted with democrat voters from large cities.


103 posted on 08/16/2023 8:15:43 AM PDT by redangus
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To: TangoLimaSierra

LOL. Insulting people who voted for Trump doesn’t help Trump win in 2024.


104 posted on 08/16/2023 8:45:06 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MountainWalker
--- "When you see positive polls for Trump from distrusted media outlets, are those push polls or reflective of reality?"

If asked of me personally, I take almost nothing at face value. I tend to look behind the "curtain," for having been convinced many times that there is some manipulation going on. Best wishes.

105 posted on 08/16/2023 8:49:49 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Skwor

Trump was an unknown in 2016. No one was paying any attention to him because they were too busy preparing the coronation ceremony for Hillary. That is no longer the case. The democrats, the media and the DS are all very aware of who Trump is now and they have no intention of letting him win. They beat him in 2020 and they are even more prepared today. Can any republican win with the level of fraud and corruption the democrats have perfected? Maybe not, but Trump is not the same candidate today that he was in 2016, and the conditions on the ground are much different. To think otherwise is as foolish as the French sitting in their underground fortress while the Germans stormed through the low countries and smashed into France from the north. We’re not fighting the same war as 2016. That was 7 years ago.


106 posted on 08/16/2023 8:52:24 AM PDT by redangus
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To: MountainWalker

Blah, blah, blah!


107 posted on 08/16/2023 9:05:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: lodi90
LOL. Insulting people who voted for Trump doesn’t help Trump win in 2024.

I'm insulting people who won't vote for Trump again in spite of all that he accomplished under constant fire. I'm looking forward to Trump's accomplishments when he isn't being stabbed in the back as well as the front.

108 posted on 08/16/2023 9:14:09 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: redangus

The point I make is not to fight the same battle. The point is simply, why are we believing the enemy or those already against someone when they tell us someone can’t win?

This is not complicated, short of a completely corrupt and controlled system saying a thing can’t happen is just flat out garbage in the defense of any argument.

And even further, with God nothing is impossible, including the election of a candidate working against a stacked system.

And I repeat, this is not coming from someone who is a hard line Trump supporter, though I am sympathetic to the qualities he can bring to the table.

Everyone throwing around the “Trump can’t win in 2024” argument is just being lazy and defeatist. The “can’t win” mantra offers no reason to vote for another other than the opinion as an asserted fact that should not be disputed.


109 posted on 08/16/2023 9:14:40 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Good point. Trump certainly did a great job draining the swamp and building the wall.


110 posted on 08/16/2023 9:45:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Trump certainly did a great job draining the swamp and building the wall.

If that's what you got out of his first term, you're kinda dense. Not worth arguing with.

Here's some study material, though.


111 posted on 08/16/2023 10:07:48 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: MountainWalker
🐂💨💩
112 posted on 08/16/2023 10:10:46 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our was nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Trump signed every piece of swamp garbage bill put on his desk and our debt exploded. “Kinda of dense” to ignore that.


113 posted on 08/16/2023 10:36:42 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: albie

The hill is a democrats LEFT WING RAG.

VOTE DEMOCRATS OUT.


114 posted on 08/16/2023 11:16:10 AM PDT by Pearfect
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To: MountainWalker

That is 53% of COMMUNISTS polled. These polls was out anyone that has any right leaning views. I know, I used to get these polls and finally they cut me off because my views were inconsistent with mainstream thought.


115 posted on 08/16/2023 12:19:16 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (thy merchants were great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev18:23)
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To: Reno89519

Guy, you have a man at 5% or so that you are hoping like hell
can’t displace Trump. It’s not going to happen.

All this negativity isn’t doing any of us any good. Can
you either act like you’re glad to have Trump or go over
DU and do the Lord’s work over there?


116 posted on 08/16/2023 3:18:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“I am in MA. A vote for Trump here is useless anyway. He isn’t going to miss it.”

And, you can tell your liberal fellow travelers you did not vote for Trump to keep your leftist bonafides.


117 posted on 08/16/2023 7:06:35 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: doorgunner69

Why would you write something so stupid and false? You should seek help.


118 posted on 08/16/2023 8:04:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

You mistake me for someone that cares what a liberal thinks, especially a northeastern liberal.
I suspect you get lots of atta boys from your fellos travelers for sticking it to those hated conservative.


119 posted on 08/16/2023 8:08:36 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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