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If Saying An Election Is Stolen Is A Crime, Why Isn’t Stacey Abrams In Prison?
The Federalist ^ | 08/15/2023 | Jordan Boyd

Posted on 08/15/2023 6:32:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/15/2023 6:32:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Um, they don’t make prison cells that big?


2 posted on 08/15/2023 6:33:49 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Great talking point. Hope Republicans are smart enough to use it.


3 posted on 08/15/2023 6:37:20 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually saying stolen election is not a crime, trying to reverse a election could be


4 posted on 08/15/2023 6:37:22 AM PDT by wild74
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To: SeekAndFind

3 reasons off the top of my head

1) Female
2) Black
3) Democrat

So she has a pass...


5 posted on 08/15/2023 6:40:04 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: SeekAndFind

What prison would want her?


6 posted on 08/15/2023 6:40:48 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand (P)
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To: From The Deer Stand

Afraid she’ll eat her cellmate.


7 posted on 08/15/2023 6:41:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t she working in the Fulton County Office, the women I saw there looked just like her, never missed a double meal at McDonalds.


8 posted on 08/15/2023 6:44:46 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: wild74

Then AL Gore should be in jail.


9 posted on 08/15/2023 6:46:05 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Female, Black, Democrat

Yep, a trifecta of protected classes. And not the orange-hair man.

10 posted on 08/15/2023 6:52:27 AM PDT by paulcissa (Politicians want you unarmed so they can control you.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

4th. reason she gets a pass:

FAT


11 posted on 08/15/2023 7:01:11 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: All

None of this matters.

The Georgia legislature must craft a law expunging any Trump indictments and Kemp must sign it, and failure to do this must end the careers of all who so fail.

Total erasure of the GOP must clearly be presented. There will never be a return to pre Trump elitism permitted. Never Trunp filth represent 10% of the party and 90% of news coverage.

There will be GOPe hand waving about such a law failing in court. That is what the word “craft” means. Construct it to succeed in court.


12 posted on 08/15/2023 7:05:01 AM PDT by Owen
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s only a crime when it is also true.


13 posted on 08/15/2023 7:12:14 AM PDT by moreisee (The Media is the enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Or Hillary. SHE was an ELECTION DENIER. And she ACTED on it by paying for the Steele Dossier. For YEARS Trump was under investigation re the Mueller Report. Why isn’t Hillary in JAIL . I bet she had a paper w confidential info and she probably committed fraud too. AND she KILLS people.


14 posted on 08/15/2023 7:23:46 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: SeekAndFind
Hillary should join her. Remember the ruckus form the demonicats when Gore lost?
15 posted on 08/15/2023 7:29:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the feckless republicans with their fearless leader McCarthy sit back and watch the injustice happen and do NOTHING. What should be happening right now This morning, is the Capitol Police should be serving a Warrant and Subpoena for this Willis gal and bring her before the Judiciary Committee to answer questions as to why Stacey Abrams isn’t under indictment and prosecution, and when she doesn’t give the right answer you Find her in Contempt an REMAND HER TO THE CAPITOL JAIL and let her know that She will NOT be released until Abrams has been Indicted and Arrested.

“U.S. CODE
TITLE 2—THE CONGRESS
CHAPTER 6—CONGRESSIONAL AND COMMITTEE PROCEDURE; INVESTIGATIONS
Sec. 193. Privilege of witnesses
No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either House of Congress, or by any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or by any committee of either House, upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or otherwise render him infamous.”

Simply look up Hinds Precedents, especially chapters 53 and 51, and Cannon’s Precedents, especially chapters 184-185. You’ll find numerous detailed cases of Congress asserting its power, arresting people, holding them until they agreed to answer questions, and then releasing them. Some of these people did not refuse to appear, but simply failed to satisfactorily answer questions.

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/

In 1857, a New York Times reporter refused to say which members of Congress had asked him to get them bribes (protecting his “sources” just as various Judith Millers today protect the people who feed them proven lies that costs thousands of lives), so Congress locked him up until he answered and then banned him from Congress.

In 1924 an oil executive appeared but refused to answer certain questions, so the Senate held — literally held — him in contempt. Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana argued that this question of contempt was of the gravest importance, and that it involved “the very life of the effective existence of the House of Representatives of the United States and of the Senate of the United States.” The matter was taken to court, and the witness fined and imprisoned.


16 posted on 08/15/2023 7:29:48 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: wild74

Isn’t that what the Democrats did when they pulled suitcases out from underneath tables after others were ordered to go home because of a leak in the building?


17 posted on 08/15/2023 7:30:54 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: ConservativeInPA

This is America; we can build one big enough.


18 posted on 08/15/2023 7:46:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
I had a nice long nap yesterday, lots of thunderstorms is what did it. :^) These two should do it for today.

19 posted on 08/15/2023 8:10:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Al Gore thought he had won... Shall we arrest him?

When democrats are short they find ballots in the back of car trunks... we all know the stories.

It's a free country - Trump had the right to think democrats had cheated. That's a reputation democrats 'earned' years ago when Chicago dems cheated for Kennedy. Everyone knows democrats cheat - they used to brag about it. Democrat cheated in the old South when they ran the Klan and would make voter tests hard for blacks and easy for whites. They've always cheated - it's who they are.

The key was Trump left the White House on the Day he was suppose to... but he damn sure didn't need to believe democrats were honest . That's a bridge too far - totally insane.

20 posted on 08/15/2023 8:27:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (FoxNews Debate first time Trump ran: Democrat Chris Wallace with a blond bimbo. And this time?)
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