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Canadian government wants fossil fuels mostly gone by 2035, put out by mostly "NO" reaction
Hotair ^ | 08/11/2023 | Beege Welborn

Posted on 08/11/2023 9:04:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It seems that Steven Guilbeault, the Environment Minister of Canada, isn’t a popular as he thinks he should be, what with saving the world and all. His “suck it up, Shriners” message, announced yesterday as part of the Trudeau government’s draft regulations to move Canada ever closer to NetZero, have really ruffled some feathers.

Especially that part about “costing more” but, oh, saving you money on the backside because of gas and oil expenditures.

RIGHT

Everyone’s heard the line about renewables being cheaper and no one’s falling for it any more.

.Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault’s newly announced plan to largely phase out the use of fossil fuels to generate power in Canada over the next 12 years is being criticized as costly and unrealistic, despite his claims that higher electricity costs would be offset by savings on oil and gas.

..Environment and Climate Change Canada officials said in a technical briefing that the national average household energy bill would increase by between $35 and $61 per year when the regulations are adopted by 2040, although the government says that only two per cent of this increase would be the result of the regulations. It also projects that the increase would be offset by savings when consumers reduce their dependency on fossil fuels, for instance the savings from the cheaper cost of recharging an electric vehicle (EV) compared to filling up with gasoline.

Shifting to clean electricity saves households on their energy bills away from the shocks of yo-yoing gas and oil prices,” said Guilbeault.

RIGHT

That clean electricity switch is going to be a rude shock to folks who live in the more frigid regions, not to mention the remote areas. Guilbeault actually has stated that the savings off-setting the electricity price increases will be from everyone swapping over to heat pumps and…

…also projects that the increase would be offset by savings when consumers reduce their dependency on fossil fuels, for instance the savings from the cheaper cost of recharging an electric vehicle (EV) compared to filling up with gasoline.

…charging up your EV. So everyone in Canada is supposed to go completely electric then?

For giggles, let’s take the average January lows for a handful of Canadian cities, why don’t we? How are they looking for maximum heat pump efficiency and compatibility, not to mention “charging your EV”?

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BBBBrrrrrrrr

The theme song from “Frozen” comes to mind looking at those. And that’s the average – it gets much colder. EVs are allergic to cold and heat pumps? HAH. We’ve gone over that a dozen times already. Heat pumps are not a bitterly cold weather “heating” solution, period, never.

There are lots of people throwing the “WHAT ARE YOU THINKING” flags. No doubt probably wondering if the Ottawa crowd even knows where the rest of Canada is located.

…Heather Exner-Pirot, director of energy, natural resources and environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and special adviser to the Business Council of Canada, said the federal Liberals are choosing to go “much faster and further than what anyone else thinks is logistically or economically possible.”

“They’re arguing that switching to clean electricity will save Canadians money. That’s not being realistic,” she argued. “Natural gas in Canada is cheap and reliable. Heat pumps and EVs do not work well in large parts of the county in winter, and that’s a fact.”

One sadly disillusioned Canadian citizen is already calling EV’s the “biggest scam of modern times.” Wait until he finds out the government expects Canadians to make the things their primary vehicles.

Dalbir Bala, who lives in the Winnipeg area, bought a Ford F-150 Lightning EV in January for $115,000 Canadian dollars (around $85,000 U.S. dollars), plus tax. Ford said the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) on the vehicle is $77,495 U.S. dollars.

But Bala was quickly hit with the reality of owning and operating an EV soon after the purchase. The vehicle compelled him to install two chargers – one at work and one at home – for $10,000. To accommodate the charger, he had to upgrade his home’s electric panel for $6,000.

In all, Bala spent more than $130,000 – plus tax.

Not long after the purchase, Bala got into a minor accident which, he said, required “light assembly” on the front bumper. Bala took the vehicle to the body shop and did not get it back for six months. He said no one from Ford answered his email or phone calls for help.

The limitations of the EV truck became even more apparent when Bala embarked on a chaotic 1,400-mile road trip to Chicago.

I don’t think the price tag is going to fly with your average Joe, less mind the irritation – the guy’s story is a nightmare. I’m sure he’s telling all his Canadian neighbors.

Saskatchewan and Alberta basically told the crusading Minister of Climate Cults, “Keep dreaming, brother.” Ottawa is welcome to rush to their doom, but they won’t be taking everyone with them.

…Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe said Thursday the draft regulations are “unaffordable, unrealistic and unconstitutional,” and that he would oppose the new rules.

“They will drive electricity rates through the roof and leave Saskatchewan with an unreliable power supply. Our government will not let the federal government do that to Saskatchewan people,” Moe said in a post on social media.

…“Trudeau’s net-zero targets are simply not achievable in Saskatchewan, and we will not ask our residents to pay the extraordinary price for the federal government’s divisive policies, nor will we risk the integrity of our provincial power grid to defy the laws of thermodynamics,” he said.

Alberta Environment Minister Rebecca Schulz blasted the federal government for putting “ideology before common sense, affordability and reliability”, and said “they will not be implemented in our province, period”.

Beauty.

The problem with bucking the liberal plan, while they remain in power, is very much the problem we are seeing here. You can tell them to fly a kite, and then they pull a regulatory rug out from under you. That’s what is happening with this announcement and the pushback.

…Smith also said, “The draft federal 2035 net-zero power grid regulations are unconstitutional, irresponsible and do not align with Alberta’s emissions reduction and energy development plan that works towards a carbon-neutral power grid by 2050.”

No matter what Ottawa says, Smith promised Alberta will bring on more energy with natural gas plants rigged with carbon capture, utilization and storage, small modular nuclear reactors, hydrogen and “a sustainable” amount of wind, solar and other renewables.

A major sticking point, referenced by Alberta Environment Minister Rebecca Schulz in her news conference, is that Ottawa will put a 20-year time limit on new gas plants, as opposed to their usual 40-year lifespan, greatly limiting their ability to either turn a profit or provide affordable energy. Guilbeault’s plan will drive up consumer costs three, four or five times as high as they are now, Schulz said.

They get you coming or they get you going, but they get you.

Canadians have to wake up.

Everything they are doing is just punative now.
Now is the Time to fight back.
We can’t wait any longer.


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— Sheila Walker 🤷🏻‍♀️⛳️🍸🔥 (@sheilawalker73) August 11, 2023

That sounds familiar.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c02; canada; climatechange; fossilfuels; greenenergy; netzero
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1 posted on 08/11/2023 9:04:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They want to own ALberta’s oilsands. That’s why Trueshit has put the kibosh on helping Alberta gets its oil out of the country.


2 posted on 08/11/2023 9:09:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: SeekAndFind
Canada is already committed to self-suicide, so the pertinent question is: what will take its place? After all, power abhors a vacuum. Extension of the Russian Empire? A Chinese occupation zone? The Islamic State of Canada (ISOC)?

3 posted on 08/11/2023 9:16:00 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind

I live to see the day that fool(truedope) is booted from Ottawa. He’s so hated yet clings to power its obscene.


4 posted on 08/11/2023 9:33:42 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

A lot of Canada is dependent on diesel trucks to deliver food and other supplies to the outlying towns.


5 posted on 08/11/2023 9:40:50 PM PDT by Texas resident (We are living through Barak's fundamental transformation)
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To: SeekAndFind

The government in Canada sounds every bit as ignorant as the one we have here.


6 posted on 08/11/2023 9:41:20 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: SeekAndFind

The government in Canada sounds every bit as ignorant as the one we have here.


7 posted on 08/11/2023 9:44:05 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: SeekAndFind

That January “average” for Edmonton and Calgary AB are ridiculously inaccurate.

Edmonton, for example, in January quite often has consecutive WEEKS where the daily HIGH temperature is MINUS 25*, with pretty near every night bouncing off minus 40.

I lived there for several years, and my sister still does. Those average temperatures are extraordinarily inaccurate.


8 posted on 08/11/2023 10:16:44 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: SeekAndFind

NOTE: the Switch to EVs alone will require investment in the Grid that costs as much as purchasing all those EVs to begin with.

That is before any new power plants are built.


9 posted on 08/12/2023 2:30:50 AM PDT by MMusson
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To: SeekAndFind

They like here want total control of everything food fuel and every breathe you take


10 posted on 08/12/2023 2:32:57 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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First there needs to be a TRUE SCIENCE replacement for carbon based energy use, then transition into it. This GREATLY included economically feasibility as judged by the citizenry because of it being the obvious better choice both short and long term.

This “cart before the horse” is so far ahead, the cart is seen by the citizens as on the Moon.


11 posted on 08/12/2023 2:48:10 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“Canada is already committed to self-suicide, so the pertinent question is: what will take its place? “


I think a breakup is inevitable.

What the components will be probably depends on what the collapse of the DC Regime looks like.

My base case for the USA is military defeat plus economic collapse triggering a currency collapse.

In that case you have a formerly industrialized country with massive budget and trade deficits, and a rapidly depreciating currency.

At that point the self sufficient areas of the USA can safely ignore the DC gov’t because it won’t even be able to pay its own troops.

If you get to that point, anything is possible. New countries, new borders...


12 posted on 08/12/2023 2:51:36 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to declare a political emergency, and implement a net zero politicians policy.


13 posted on 08/12/2023 3:18:20 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: oldtech

Their pols are idiots, but the Deep State hiding behind is not.

Canadians have the same electronic voting machines we do.

Until Canadians secure their elections, they are screwed.


14 posted on 08/12/2023 3:23:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's not incompetence.

It's intentional.

15 posted on 08/12/2023 3:24:03 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s not being realistic,

FTLOG

Call it what it is...a bald face lie...quit with the dissembling mumbles and spit in their faces.

Heat pumps just won’t work in Canada...there’s no heat to pump. You will be using strip backup all freaking winter. And still will be cold.


16 posted on 08/12/2023 3:49:54 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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Canadians can always burn wood.

No, wait...


17 posted on 08/12/2023 4:05:35 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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>Heat pumps just won’t work in Canada...there’s no heat to pump. You will be using strip backup all freaking winter. And still will be cold.<

The highest electric bills I ever paid were during a Pennsylvania winter in 1996. It was an all electric house including a heat pump....$1000!!!

There was no relief from the cold. The heat pump ran continuously for days with the “Emer ht” light (backup strip) on the whole time.

For perspective, that would be $1950 in today’s dollars.

EC


18 posted on 08/12/2023 4:52:54 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: SeekAndFind

Justin the punch drink pothead thinks he can reduce Carbon on a Carbon based planet ,LOL


19 posted on 08/12/2023 6:07:55 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: noiseman

Have they given any thought to the amount of items that are made from fossil fuels? What do they use for insulating the electric wires? Tires are made of what? etc etc


20 posted on 08/12/2023 7:14:51 AM PDT by oldasrocks (uit )
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