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China to Attend Talks on Ukraine in Saudi Arabia That Exclude Russia
US News ^ | 8/4/2023 | Reuters

Posted on 08/04/2023 6:49:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

China on Friday said it would send a senior official to Saudi Arabia for weekend talks on finding a peaceful settlement to the war in Ukraine, a forum that excludes Russia, in a diplomatic coup for Kyiv, the West and the Saudi hosts.

Ukrainian and Western diplomats hope the meeting in Jeddah of national security advisers and other senior officials from some 40 countries will agree on key principles for a future peace settlement to end Russia's war in Ukraine.

Chinese Special Envoy for Eurasian Affairs Li Hui will visit Jeddah for the talks, China's foreign ministry said on Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; putin; russia; xi
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1 posted on 08/04/2023 6:49:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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China playing the angles; what else is new?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3230041/china-keen-ensure-saudi-arabias-ukraine-peace-talks-do-not-become-anti-russian-event


2 posted on 08/04/2023 7:00:52 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Ya, that’s brilliant! Have peace talks to negotiate peace, but don’t include Russia. There’s no arguments that way. LOL


3 posted on 08/04/2023 7:01:20 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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Or the Russia serfs now must dance for their Chinese masters.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine might be their biggest regret yet.


4 posted on 08/04/2023 7:06:39 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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5 posted on 08/04/2023 7:09:24 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Or the Russia serfs now must dance for their Chinese masters

You people must live in an alternate reality. If anyone is a slave to the chinese in this reality, it's Americans.
6 posted on 08/04/2023 7:15:06 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To make things worse, they seem like excluded Ukraine either.


7 posted on 08/04/2023 7:24:03 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Sources said Saudi Arabia has invited about 30 countries, and while Ukraine is going to attend, Russia will not.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-to-attend-jeddah-conference-on-ukraines-peace-plan-on-aug-5-6-8875277/


8 posted on 08/04/2023 7:31:39 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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“Ya, that’s brilliant! Have peace talks to negotiate peace, but don’t include Russia. There’s no arguments that way. LOL”

It actually makes sense if the purpose is to stage an Intervention with Zelensky and get him off his “Greatest Offensive” high horse and tell him that the longer he drags out this war, the more of Ukraine will be lost to Russia, and likely Poland and other countries too.


9 posted on 08/04/2023 7:36:52 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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So, would they press Ukraine into a surrender? Saudi Arabia and China aren’t particularly pro-Western.


10 posted on 08/04/2023 7:41:09 PM PDT by NorseViking
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11 posted on 08/04/2023 7:41:11 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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China and Saudi know Putin’s days are numbered.


12 posted on 08/04/2023 7:42:16 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Numbered by whom? What makes you think that Putin’s replacement would be less assertive?


13 posted on 08/04/2023 7:43:32 PM PDT by NorseViking
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The oligarchs want their yachts back. And Prigozhin is free as a bird.


14 posted on 08/04/2023 7:45:09 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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So Gucci’s cost more in Moscow - big deal. Pretty much everything else Russia still makes, or, at worst buys from China.


15 posted on 08/04/2023 7:46:48 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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They have their yachts in Dubai, and if you think that Prigozhin is your guy I pity you.


16 posted on 08/04/2023 7:49:19 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Russian industrial sector have seen a growth of 13% since last year. The biggest problem to the economy is a labor shortage and explosive growth in wages.


17 posted on 08/04/2023 7:50:36 PM PDT by NorseViking
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“Numbered by whom? What makes you think that Putin’s replacement would be less assertive?”

You can see the power of the Western Media when people, EVEN HERE, actually believe that a replacement for Putin (most likely Medvedev) would be ‘better’ for the West (LOL). If anything, the West should be sending their BEST DOCTORS to Moscow to help Putin (if he even needs help), as their war in Ukraine will become VERY DIFFERENT for Europe once Putin is out.

Note also how they allow themselves to fall for the Alinsky tactic of “personalizing” a dispute, rather than looking at things objectively, as most MAGA people are able to do.


18 posted on 08/04/2023 7:52:24 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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“Russian industrial sector have seen a growth of 13% since last year. The biggest problem to the economy is a labor shortage and explosive growth in wages.”

I’ve been hearing the same, thanks.


19 posted on 08/04/2023 7:53:47 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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Russia has far more of their economy tethered to China than we do. If Xi orders Putin to give up Crimea, Vlad has to obey.


20 posted on 08/04/2023 7:54:05 PM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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