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To: kabar

Even if all that it true, even if.

It’s like a boyfriend going back and killing an ex 5 years later. That’s how Russia’s invasion is, even in the best ‘victimization’ circumstance.

QED Putin got butthurt over nothing and went stupid.


15 posted on 07/29/2023 4:12:51 AM PDT by NotWokeOrCommie
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It’s like a boyfriend going back and killing an ex 5 years later. That’s how Russia’s invasion is, even in the best ‘victimization’ circumstance.

The shooting war in Ukraine has been going on since 2014. You seem to be unaware of the events leading up to the second Russian invasion or the red lines. The Minsk Agreements of 2014 and 2015 brokered and signed by France and Germany and signed by Russia and Ukraine were supposed to end the war. Ukraine failed to implement the 2015 Minsk agreement that would have given greater autonomy to the Donbas region.

Since 2008 under Bush 43, the US has pushed for Ukraine to join NATO. And since 2007 Putin has said that Russia would never allow Ukraine to be part of NATO, a red line.

On June 12, 2020, NATO recognized Ukraine as Enhanced Opportunities Partner

"This status is part of NATO’s Partnership Interoperability Initiative, which aims to maintain and deepen cooperation between Allies and partners that have made significant contributions to NATO-led operations and missions."

"As a NATO partner, Ukraine has provided troops to Allied operations, including in Afghanistan and Kosovo, as well as to the NATO Response Force and NATO exercises. Allies highly value these significant contributions, which demonstrate Ukraine’s commitment to Euro-Atlantic security."

"As an Enhanced Opportunities Partner, Ukraine will benefit from tailor-made opportunities to help sustain such contributions. This includes enhanced access to interoperability programmes and exercises, and more sharing of information, including lessons learned."

"Ukraine is now one of six Enhanced Opportunities Partners, alongside Australia, Finland, Georgia, Jordan and Sweden. Each of the partners has a tailor-made relationship with NATO, based on areas of mutual interest."

"Ukraine’s status as an Enhanced Opportunities Partner does not prejudge any decisions on NATO membership. NATO Allies continue to encourage and support Ukraine in its reform efforts, including in the security and defence sector, with regard to civilian control and democratic oversight, and in the fight against corruption."

QED Putin got butthurt over nothing and went stupid."

On January 20, 2021 Biden was sworn in as President and assembled his national security team, many of whom were part of the Obama/Biden Administration and participated in the 2014 coup, i.e., Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan, Powers, et. al. One can only imagine Putin's reaction to this incompetent bunch of fools, whom he had humiliated in 2014. And it was Obama/Biden with Hillary that had originated the Russia hoax against Trump and scapegoating Russia for his election.

And then Trump was impeached over Ukraine over a "perfect call" to Zelensky because he mentioned the Biden name, which triggered the Dems and Deep State. Vindman, born in Ukraine and a member of the NSC, was on the call. He leaked it to the CIA's Ciaramella who got the ball rolling with Schiff. Ciaramella held the positions of National Security Council director for Ukraine under Susan Rice and director of Baltic and Eastern European Affairs in the Office of Vice President Joe Biden. Ciaramella worked with Democratic National Committee operative Alexandra Chalupa, born in Ukraine, to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election.

We have a compromised President who extorted $10 million in bribes from Ukraine and got his son a million dollar a year job with Burisma. Is it any wonder that Biden has given his wholehearted support to Ukraine for as long as it takes and no matter the cost? Zelensky has Biden by the nuts It is called leverage.

And Biden's National Security Team wants payback. They want to punish Putin who outsmarted them in 2014 by annexing Crimea and supporting the separatist movement in the Donbas in retaliation for the coup. For Nuland and others this is personal.

Biden doubled down on stupid when he became President. He pushed for NATO membership on steroids and gave Putin the middle finger when on November 10, 2021 when Putin was assembling troops on the border massing for the eventual invasion on February 24, 2022, Blinken signed the U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership. Among other thins the Charter contained the following:

"4. Emphasize unwavering commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders, including Crimea and extending to its territorial waters in the face of ongoing Russian aggression, which threatens regional peace and stability and undermines the global rules-based order."

"6. Affirm the commitments made to strengthen the Ukraine-U.S. strategic partnership by Presidents Zelenskyy and Biden on September 1, 2021.

"Guided by the April 3, 2008 Bucharest Summit Declaration of the NATO North Atlantic Council and as reaffirmed in the June 14, 2021 Brussels Summit Communique of the NATO North Atlantic Council, the United States supports Ukraine’s right to decide its own future foreign policy course free from outside interference, including with respect to Ukraine’s aspirations to join NATO."

"The United States and Ukraine intend to continue a range of substantive measures to prevent external direct and hybrid aggression against Ukraine and hold Russia accountable for such aggression and violations of international law, including the seizure and attempted annexation of Crimea and the Russia-led armed conflict in parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, as well as its continuing malign behavior. The United States intends to support Ukraine’s efforts to counter armed aggression, economic and energy disruptions, and malicious cyber activity by Russia, including by maintaining sanctions against or related to Russia and applying other relevant measures until restoration of the territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders."

"This Charter replaces the U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership, signed at Washington on December 19, 2008. The United States and Ukraine intend to revise this Charter every ten years or earlier if both sides believe that changes are needed."

This war could have been averted thru diplomacy. It was like watching a slow motion train wreck. Follow the money. Who profits from this war?

25 posted on 07/30/2023 7:09:44 AM PDT by kabar
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