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To: AFret.
Please provide a source document referencing how an amendment “superseds” the Constitution. I’ll wait.

The purpose of a constitutional amendment is to change the constitution. The amendment supersedes the original. The amendment becomes the Constitution.

The 14th amendment defines citizenship at birth. Any prior definition would be moot. Slaves were not considered natural born citizens but were granted citizenship because of the 14th Amendment. Under your definition a freed slave who could trace his lineage back to the Mayflower would not have been eligible to be president because his parents weren’t citizens at the time of his birth.

I think the 14th amendment was designed to remedy that problem.

You are never going to win your case. You are just barking at the moon.

Have a nice day.

116 posted on 07/27/2023 2:27:35 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: P-Marlowe

The 14th amendment defines citizenship at birth. Any prior definition would be moot. Slaves were not considered natural born citizens but were granted citizenship because of the 14th Amendment. Under your definition a freed slave who could trace his lineage back to the Mayflower would not have been eligible to be president because his parents weren’t citizens at the time of his birth.


Not to quibble, but “granted citizenship” is outlined below:

“Passed by the Senate on June 8, 1866, and ratified two years later, on July 9, 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons “born or naturalized in the United States,” including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of ...”

Citizenship is often confused with NBC but the distinctions are clear. Citizens can be elected up to Senator, but VPOTUS/POTUS is reserved for NBC’s...(Born of two citizen parents).

Granted, I’m not very bright, but I can read.


157 posted on 07/27/2023 2:57:13 PM PDT by AFret. (.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Under your definition a freed slave who could trace his lineage back to the Mayflower would not have been eligible to be president because his parents weren’t citizens at the time of his birth.

I think the 14th amendment was designed to remedy that problem.

The 14th amendment was absolutely not designed to remedy the problem of former slaves becoming president. It was designed to protect the rights of former slaves by making them citizens through a process of mass naturalization.

I've been reading through the debates on the 14th amendment today. They *SAY* it is mass naturalization. The very congressmen who voted on it say it is using the power of congress to naturalize former slaves en masse.

The 14th amendment is a naturalization at birth. Natural born citizens do not need it.

286 posted on 07/27/2023 6:50:22 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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