[LukeL]

I find it very hard to believe that a person with zero training could make a tight 330 degree while descending at over 2200 feet per minute and keep the plane level a mere dozen or so feet off the ground. To keep a jet from pitching up at that high of speed and low altitude would require precise spoiler and flap settings something even a skilled pilot would have trouble doing.

[T.B. Yoits]

I find it very hard to believe that a person with zero training could make a tight 330 degree while descending at over 2200 feet per minute and keep the plane level a mere dozen or so feet off the ground. To keep a jet from pitching up at that high of speed and low altitude would require precise spoiler and flap settings something even a skilled pilot would have trouble doing.

They didn't have zero training, they were training extensively in simulators. For those who say it's not the same thing as actual flying, that's true, but with a simulator, one could train for extremes that a physical airplane would only tolerate once.

[logi_cal869]

Unless that pilot trained/practiced that exact maneuver in the same aircraft type...

[Jim Noble]

I find it very hard to believe that a person with zero training could make a tight 330 degree while descending at over 2200 feet per minute and keep the plane level a mere dozen or so feet off the ground. To keep a jet from pitching up at that high of speed and low altitude would require precise spoiler and flap settings something even a skilled pilot would have trouble doing

Agree, but what do I know?

Have we ever read a qualified heavy jet pilot's analysis of "could any of these bozos actually flown that route without missing a tower" - and if no pilot has ever written this up, why not?