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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The very categorization of "illegal alien" implies that those in that category are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, because they can be charged for breaking the law. They are governed by our laws, and thus are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Yes!

If the United States can detain you, confiscate your possessions, and put you on a plane, bus, or train and forcibly relocate you to Honduras or wherever, you are MOST CERTAINLY "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.

43 posted on 07/21/2023 9:18:06 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Jim Noble
If the United States can detain you, confiscate your possessions, and put you on a plane, bus, or train and forcibly relocate you to Honduras or wherever, you are MOST CERTAINLY "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.

Actually, you [sic] are merely subject to the judicial laws of the country they invaded. They and their kids don't get amnesty and US citizenship for their kids by breaking our laws.

Jurisdiction has 2 components; sovereignty among nations (citizenship), and legal governance (legislation, judicial) among its people and visitors, within its borders. Treaties fall in between (Executive, Legislative).

49 posted on 07/21/2023 11:22:32 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: Jim Noble
If the United States can detain you, confiscate your possessions, and put you on a plane, bus, or train and forcibly relocate you to Honduras or wherever, you are MOST CERTAINLY "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.

Using that example, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were both subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, but I don't think they were citizens.

63 posted on 07/21/2023 1:52:22 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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