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To: DiogenesLamp
The 14th Amendment was certified by the appropriate official as having been ratified.

So, Vichy government is A-OK with you. I'm beginning to see why we are clashing on this issue. You appear to believe in whatever the powers that be tell you, while I believe in objective truth.

There is no avenue for a judicial appeal of that decision.

The existing power structure deems every illegal thing they did "legal." Yes, I know that, but I don't consider that the same thing as "truth."

The objective truth is that the 14th Amendment has been the law of the land since 1868 and there's not a damn thing that any of your truther, birther crap can do about it. All your bleatoing does not change a thing, and it is not possible to challenge in Court.

Nobody gives a good damn about your truther or birther nonsense, bt the 14th Amendment is enforceable as law.

I am unaware of any great debate making a provision of the Constitution null and void, or even changing a single word of such a provision.

Well I guess that would indicate you don't hang out in Professor Reynolds academic circles.

Nobody hangs out in some non-existent academic circle which believes their debate changes the Constitution. It sounds like a circle jerk funded by The Hunter Biden Endowment for the Court of the Imagination.

192 posted on 07/28/2023 2:46:05 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
There is no avenue for a judicial appeal of that decision.

No appeal for the Nazi ran, I mean Vichy governments either. Doesn't make it factually correct or morally proper.

The objective truth is that the 14th Amendment has been the law of the land since 1868 and there's not a damn thing that any of your truther, birther crap can do about it.

The law used to allow slavery. The law is an @$$. The law means what those in power want it to mean.

All your bleatoing does not change a thing, and it is not possible to challenge in Court.

So? Doesn't make the court correct, it just makes them powerful enough to get what they want.

Nobody hangs out in some non-existent academic circle which believes their debate changes the Constitution.

Well now, you see here? You are changing what I said into something I didn't say.

I think the question as to whether or not the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments were lawfully ratified is a valid topic for debate in academic circles.

My position is that it violates the hell out of "consent of the governed" and is therefore illegal under constitutional law, but as I said, the law means whatever those in power want it to mean.

Fake governments that they created to do what they instructed them to do, doesn't meet constitutional muster in my opinion, but you do you.

198 posted on 07/31/2023 4:21:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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