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Pre-Emptive Presidential Pardons for Joe and Hunter Biden
americanthinker.com ^ | 7/13/2023 | Steve McCann

Posted on 07/13/2023 8:32:22 PM PDT by bitt

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To: Leaning Right

I would also ask them to include an exact definition of “natural born citizen”.


21 posted on 07/14/2023 8:38:31 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: bitt

IIRC——A PRESIDENT CANNOT PARDON HIMSELF.


22 posted on 07/14/2023 11:21:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: bitt

If, as some of us believe possible, JB is not really the President due to continuity of government arrangements,

or if, as some of us believe possible, JB will eventually be declared an illegitimate President due to election fraud,

then any pardon he grants would likely be illegitimate.

I suspect that all of this is an exercise designed to make us think about the issue of pardons. I’m still in favor of the President having the power to pardon anyone, but I’m open to listening to arguments against it. A poor argument is saying that JB will pardon himself and his son. One specific case / one specific bad President does not IMO invalidate the wisdom of granting the President this power.


23 posted on 07/14/2023 7:19:28 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: shooter223

Amen to that.

If I were in charge, I’d like to require that in order to be President, a person must have been born on US soil and both parents must be citizens at the time of the person’s birth.

Furthermore, due to the ease of world travel in the modern world, I would like a provision that the person must have spent the vast majority of his/her life, particularly his/her formative years on US soil. This would prevent abominations like 0vomit who, regardless of where he may have been born, spent a large percentage of his formative years in Indonesia. I don’t have a strong opinion on the definition of “vast majority”. I think it would be reasonable to allow overseas vacations or even a year abroad to study. But I think it’s a topic worth discussing.


24 posted on 07/14/2023 7:26:33 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: ridesthemiles

That is one theory, but there has never been a definitive determination on whether a president can pardon himself.


25 posted on 07/19/2023 2:50:37 PM PDT by MortMan (Lawfare puts the label on the banana republic.)
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To: Elsie

Only if they take away his ice cream.


26 posted on 07/19/2023 2:51:14 PM PDT by MortMan (Lawfare puts the label on the banana republic.)
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