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Yes, the Government Is Coming for Your Gas Stove
Reason ^ | AUGUST/SEPTEMBER 2023 | CHRISTIAN BRITSCHGI

Posted on 07/07/2023 1:47:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway

State and local governments are moving forward with bans on gas stoves in new residences.

In May, the Democrat-controlled New York State Legislature and Gov. Kathy Hochul inked a $229 billion state budget agreement that included a ban on residential gas stoves. By 2029, only electric ranges will be allowed in new residences.

The policy is similar to bans imposed by local governments in places such as New York City and California. Advocates say those laws help curtail climate change by reducing natural gas consumption and protect people's health by reducing in-home emissions.

Opponents who cited studies finding no causal link between gas stoves and asthma won few converts in Albany, nor did they sway legislators with their argument that burning gas in power plants to power electric stoves is less efficient and therefore probably worse for the climate.

Defenders of consumer choice are fighting a two-front war. One week after New York approved its gas stove ban, the Biden administration proposed new energy efficiency rules for dishwashers that would require new machines to use less water and electricity. Such rules already target showerheads, microwave ovens, conventional ovens, refrigerators, and laundry machines.

The administration argues that the new rules will eventually save consumers billions of dollars on utility bills. Manufacturers say the savings will be eaten up by the higher prices of the machines they will be forced to make.

Higher prices driven by federal mandates historically have been accompanied by worse products. As efficiency standards for dishwashers got tighter under President Barack Obama, manufacturers met them by making machines that circulate less water over a longer wash cycle. Many people responded by hand-washing their dishes, a practice that uses more water.

One should expect unintended consequences when state mandates collide with individual choice. And even if the government could perfectly predict the results of its actions, that would not justify its interference.

People know their own needs best. When purchasing a new oven, dishwasher, or washing machine, they make tradeoffs.

Are you going to use your dishwasher a lot? If not, the cheaper upfront cost of a more energy-hungry model makes sense. Some people prefer the peace of mind that comes with an electric stove. People who care about price and efficiency may prefer gas.

Central planners tend to downplay the effects of their bans and regulations, assuming they acknowledge them at all. The U.S. Department of Energy has a whole FAQ correcting "misinformation" about its appliance rules. But consumers are feeling justified anger at these policies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gasstove
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To: Tell It Right

Just like how the evil paper grocery bags were destroying entire forests, so plastic was the only way to go. Envirowackos decreed!

And then when the evil plastic bags choked everything in sight and filled the landfills, some kind of weird, unsanitary, pressed frankenfiber bags appeared on the scene...

On and on.

Managed clearcutting in the middle of nowhere was the devil, but hideous, hazardous, and dysfunctional wind turbine bird blender blight from sea to shining sea is a scenic delight.

They won’t stop until their victims put a stop to it.

I think we’re right up to the ‘cornered puppy’ phase.


21 posted on 07/07/2023 3:48:20 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: nickcarraway

More stupidity by the climate cretins.


22 posted on 07/07/2023 3:49:47 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: nickcarraway

Natural gas companies can’t have “rolling blackouts”,


23 posted on 07/07/2023 3:52:54 PM PDT by stuckinloozeeana
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To: NorthMountain

I VILL NOT eat Zee Buggz!!


24 posted on 07/07/2023 3:54:02 PM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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To: nickcarraway
Having lived in Africa, we needed our gas stove when the electricity was out most of the day.


25 posted on 07/07/2023 3:54:46 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: sauropod

I vill NOT eatz ze bugzzz eezer ... and that may become “kinetic” as they say.


26 posted on 07/07/2023 3:57:13 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: nickcarraway

I would suggest that for those poor unfortunate souls who are living in a state that mandates electric stoves go out and purchase a couple of Coleman 2 burner camp stoves and half dozen of the 1 pound propane cylinders. They’ll come in handy when the inevitable rolling blackout arrive.


27 posted on 07/07/2023 4:06:21 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Carl Vehse

Your government hates you. Hate them back.


28 posted on 07/07/2023 5:10:47 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: ifinnegan

People are supposed to die. That’s what the Satanists want.


29 posted on 07/07/2023 6:15:14 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: nickcarraway

I keep wondering how bad things will get and if our society will survive as we know it. As things are quickening, I guess we will find out in the next few years.


30 posted on 07/07/2023 6:15:16 PM PDT by bosco24
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To: NorthMountain
Induction burners work better than gas anyway and won't blow up your house.

Of course you should be free to use whatever you want, but please not next to my house.

31 posted on 07/07/2023 6:16:50 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: Mogger

Induction burners suck, and I’ve never seen a gas stove blow up a house. Most of my life, I have had a gas range in the kitchen.

We all have opinions ...

I don’t have one now, but converting to propane is on the list (way down the list) of “things to do”.


32 posted on 07/07/2023 6:30:31 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: technically right

Excellent advice.

Several years ago, my area had a multi-day power failure, due to severe storms. The camp stove was very handy to have.


33 posted on 07/07/2023 6:32:22 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: roadcat

Simple....get a plastic 44 gallon drum...place on back of truck...fill it with water...leave it in the sun all morning to get hot...add detergents...dirty washing...drive around all afternoon...just need a rinse and drying.


34 posted on 07/07/2023 6:42:39 PM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: ifinnegan

Does come in handy after a hurricane. Cooking on a grill gets old, besides my spaghetti keeps falling into the fire.


35 posted on 07/07/2023 6:57:45 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: NorthMountain
Induction burners suck, and I’ve never seen a gas stove blow up a house.

What sucks about induction burners?

I have not personally seen a house blown up by gas.

Every now and then there's a story and pictures of a house, and often surrounding houses blown to smithereens by leaking gas igniting.

36 posted on 07/07/2023 7:31:41 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: Mogger

I’ve used induction ranges. I don’t like the way they heat.

And every now and then there’s a story about an electrical fault causing a house fire.

I have had only one catastrophic failure of a kitchen stove. The thermostat on an ELECTRIC oven failed, causing it to go into constant full power. The only way to turn it off was to hit the breaker panel. Didn’t burn the house down only because I was right there to see what it was doing.


37 posted on 07/07/2023 7:37:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: unixfox
unixfox @28: "Your government hates you."

I, along with the rest of We the People ARE the government who "ordain and establish the Constitution as our form of government for the United States of America, under which we govern through our elected and appointed representatives.

It is especially the elected and appointed Demonicrats who have betrayed us and our Constitution and hate We the People and our Constitution. It is especially those Demonicrats who We the People, as the government, need to bring to Justice.

38 posted on 07/07/2023 8:47:19 PM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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To: nickcarraway

Left Marxists want to control what is controllable, gas is not due to pressures, electricity is. so banning appliances using gas is thier game.


39 posted on 07/08/2023 4:40:16 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Mogger

Just a few more kilowatts in the grid.


40 posted on 07/08/2023 7:55:04 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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