Posted on 07/05/2023 1:39:45 PM PDT by Ennis85
Some excellent points, but you were much too kind to the snarky one.
I am trying not to be uncivil, and not doing well at it.
My rule is that I try not to say anything to someone online that I wouldn’t say to their face.
In “real life” I can be a bit of a hothead, and have occasionally said some terrible things that I can never take back, even with a sincere apology, that doesn’t take it back.
I am trying to find my way to God, because I need God in my life now, more than ever before, and I am finding it difficult to accept certain Christian tenets into my heart (Love your enemy is one that I struggle with)
But I am trying. And part of that is learning how not to be uncivil, yet make the salient points. Not easy to do for me.
I think you are doing well here.
Thanks for saying so. All I can do is every time I fail, pick myself up on this and vow to do better...
I’m sure I’m already on a list. Multiple lists.
just for being a conservative
Hitler managed to find every single Jew in the Nazi occupied territories. Even the babies
“it’s insane to keep thinking the courts are going to change if we try one more time”
True.
the corruption goes very deep. and wide
1984 anyone?
I hate to say this, but Trump is partly at fault for:
- failing to pick an AG with the principle and fortitude to prosecute the many crimes of Hillary (“lock her up!”)
- picking a horrific pansy for the VP instead of one who would have zealously investigated and prosecuted the rampant voter fraud in 2016 and 2018, warding off future systemic fraud
- making numerous flawed appointments to his cabinet who undercut and sabotaged his conservative agenda
So, is your life so empty that you have to go around mocking people on websites when it comes to who they support, which is their right as well as you have a right to support who you want. Why is it you have to go around ruining threads by MOCKING PEOPLE? sad little person. And no conservative would act the way you do.
I ruined the thread? You clearly didn’t read all of it. You are on a pretty high horse. Be careful.
12/03/2020 Video of room where vote ballots were counted at Fulton County, "Hawk's" State Farm Arena, Atlanta, Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3-QiNLI7M
EXCERPTS of comments by "brandaugment6492" who is critical of Jacki Lynn Pick's explanation:
FYI, there are officials with direct knowledge of ballot-processing procedures, some of whom were in these rooms, some of whom gave instructions to workers, who are now investigating the events and allegations about this video so they can fill in more detail on what happened that day. I think reasonable people would want to hear both sides of the story and they will probably come out within the next few days.
Additional videos:
- About 2 minutes of video footage that was allegedly on the laptop on Ruby Freeman's desk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRGiFbYlJc
(the person who posted this suggested that the objects passed between Ruby and Shaye Moss may have been smoking-related as it was a nonsmoking facility).
(NOTE: That video is no longer available at YouTube.)
- A four-hour video of ballot-processing during the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyT-bwYFLY
(includes footage of [Ruby] Freeman)
If you go to the 3:25:15 mark on the long video, you can see one of the bigger machines used in the process.There's a video on social media that a Fulton county poll worker crumpled up a ballot. The worker was a 'cutter' (the person who opens the outer envelope and removes the inner envelope). The ballot was still in the inner envelope. The paper the worker crumpled was half the size of a ballot (the director identified it as a sheet of instructions). Someone re-captioned the video to make it look like the person had destroyed a ballot.
The cutters are told that they may go home (some have been there since very early in the morning) and they can be seen packing up just before 10:00 pm.
Recap of bins:
5:55 A woman in white (Supervisor of Registration) pulls a bin from under the table (looks like it might be empty? and puts the lid on top).
6:04 The man in a suit takes off his jacket (it's now easy to see his red shirt). In a few instances he makes hand gestures (talking to people?).
6:05 A woman in yellow pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:16 The woman in white ([election] supervisor) pulls a bin from under the table and takes it to a desk.
6:31 The man in red puts something in his pocket? or tucks his shirt, pulls out a bin from under the table, pauses (like he might be saying something?) and takes it to a desk.
At each desk workers are now processing stacks of papers (scanning them?).The voice-over says that they are counting ballots, but it's possible these were already counted earlier and these sheets are being scanned. The large gray machines (lower left) have been covered over with cloths. I would like to know the purpose of the large machines (cutting machines maybe?) and the small machines on the desks (each district has slightly different arrangements and models of machines so you can't always tell which is which from an overhead shot). Are they scanners? tabulators? something else?
Elections officials are saying that after the majority of workers had finished their job of opening envelopes, that they left, and poll watchers and press left with them voluntarily, not because they were told to leave. (On a different occasion, they may have been asked to leave for 2 hours because there was a pipe leaking water.)
The State elections monitor was there just before midnight and he says he didn't see any irregular activities.
The workers are not "unobserved" as J. Picks states in the commentary, they are on video. They know there is video security.
There are conflicting stories about whether people were told to "clear out". When there was a water leak problem, this may have happened, but that is not the same as what happened at the end of the day in this video. Many of the workers had finished, and the press and poll watchers left with them.
I'm in favor of elections security and working to make systems fair and accurate, but this commentary is biased and based on incomplete and sometimes erroneous information (plus an assumption of guilt).
About observers and that remark by brandaugment6492, "Robert-lw2tt" replied to brandaugment6492:
State officials have already admitted that there were no observers there like they originally said. Look it up.
Then brandaugment6492 replied to Robert-lw2tt:
In the state of Georgia, poll watchers are permitted but not required by law. I looked up the laws and it says "may" not "shall". So, even though I think poll watchers should be present, they were not breaking the law by continuing to work when the call came in asking them if they could put in a few more hours.
Then Robert-lw2tt replied to brandaugment6492:
Very shady how they sat quietly until everyone left. Have you seen the video of Ruby [Freeman] and her daughter secretly passing the USB drive?
Were Georgia monitors sent home? State officials clash with Trump team over chain of events [by Barnini Chakraborty, Washington Examiner, 12/07/2020]
EXCERPTS:
[Jacki Lynn] Pick said the video showed a staff member telling observers to leave around 10:30 p.m., and that after they left, four election workers stayed behind to count the hidden batch for two hours without any witnesses present.
Richard Barron, Fulton County elections director, pushed back on those claims Friday and said no observers were explicitly told to leave but that some had started to go after they finished their work. As more and more people started to call it a night, they put prepared ballots back in boxes and away under a table to "close out" for the evening.
At that point, election observers and members of the media also started to leave. Then, the election supervisor on site got a call from [Richard] Barron, who told the team to keep scanning the ballots that had already been prepared. Gabriel Sterling, a top election official in Georgia, said it was then that workers pulled the boxes of ballots back out and continued scanning.
Another video, 3:16 minutes:
Georgia election officials shows frame-by-frame of State Farm Arena Election Night video | WSB-TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-9jFuieH_U
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