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Hunter Biden attorney says WhatsApp message cited by Republicans is fake
Comcrap/NBC News ^ | June 30, 2023 | Sarah Fitzpatrick and Tom Winter

Posted on 06/30/2023 1:23:49 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

In a purported 2017 message to a Chinese businessman, Hunter Biden allegedly threatened retaliation from his father, who was then a former vice president.

An attorney for Hunter Biden says purported screenshots of a text message from Hunter Biden to a potential Chinese business partner where he refers to Joe Biden — a message that has been the subject of intense scrutiny following statements made by an IRS whistleblower — are “not real and contain myriad of issues.”

Abbe Lowell, who is one of Hunter Biden’s attorneys, made the statement in a letter to Rep. Jason Smith, R-Mo., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has interviewed the whistleblowers. The letter was obtained by NBC News.

IRS Supervisory Special Agent Gary Shapley told the committee under oath that, as an investigator for the IRS, he obtained messages Hunter Biden sent on the WhatsApp platform, including one in 2017 that he read demanding payment from a Chinese businessman named Henry Zhao.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bcf; biden; bidencrimefamily; bidenfamilysyndicate; hunter; pedophile
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1 posted on 06/30/2023 1:23:49 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Uh-huh’


2 posted on 06/30/2023 1:26:59 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The “screenshots” were made up from the message, they weren’t put out as actual screenshots.


3 posted on 06/30/2023 1:27:38 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: ConservativeInPA

OK.
I guess this whole Hunter Biden scandal is really nothing more than a Republican talking point.
OK.


4 posted on 06/30/2023 1:30:53 PM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: ConservativeInPA

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Ben Kenobi: The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.


5 posted on 06/30/2023 1:39:47 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: ConservativeInPA

“Lie like a Biden Family Syndicate mouthpiece”


6 posted on 06/30/2023 1:39:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: sauropod

Hunter’s lawyer determined the WhatApp message was not real.

Well I guess that staightened things out, now the scandal and investagation are over and everyone can get back to what they were doing before.


7 posted on 06/30/2023 1:43:15 PM PDT by bosco24
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To: ConservativeInPA

About the only people who believe the message was faked also believe men can bear children.


8 posted on 06/30/2023 1:43:49 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: ConservativeInPA
"Hunter Biden attorney says WhatsApp message cited by Republicans is fake"

Fake like a "pee tape?"
9 posted on 06/30/2023 1:47:50 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

From what I’m reading, the attorney is expressing that the stylized interpretations of the message are “fake” but doesn’t dispute the text of the message. Am I getting that right?

To the best of my knowledge Shapely never produced an actual screenshot of the message and only testified to the content of the message. From there it was media organizations that added the styling and the styling in no way changes the content of the message.

I would also note that whoever wrote this article never addressed the issue of whether the content of the communication was accurate or not. It doesn’t get much more propaganda than that!


10 posted on 06/30/2023 1:47:51 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: Tucsonican
The article is actually saying the mocked up screenshots, which I think came from a PowerPoint, are not real screenshots from Hunter's phone. Well yeah.

It's unclear if what the lawyer was saying.

Are these "fake but accurate" recreations or are they fake-fake?

11 posted on 06/30/2023 1:57:22 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: Tucsonican

Yeah, I would like to know who made up the screenshots. That was a stupid thing to do—the text alone speaks for itself.


12 posted on 06/30/2023 1:59:42 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: Tucsonican

“From what I’m reading, the attorney is expressing that the stylized interpretations of the message are “fake” but doesn’t dispute the text of the message. Am I getting that right?

To the best of my knowledge Shapely never produced an actual screenshot of the message and only testified to the content of the message. From there it was media organizations that added the styling and the styling in no way changes the content of the message.”

... which leaves an opening for Hunter’s lawyer to claim the screenshot image is fake because it is. The media orgs should have stuck with disseminating the content.

As they say “if you have to explain then you are losing.”


13 posted on 06/30/2023 1:59:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ConservativeInPA

You’re fake Hunter Biden.


14 posted on 06/30/2023 2:03:23 PM PDT by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Hunter Biden attorney says WhatsApp message cited by Republicans is fake

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight, sure, nod nod, wink wink.

15 posted on 06/30/2023 2:05:22 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (THE BEST IS YET TO COME - (PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP))
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To: sauropod
I would suggest Hunter "crack head pervert" Biden sue the whistle blowers. Discovery in court is a bitch for the guilty. Those whistle blowers put their careers on the line to tell the truth. They are not lying.

In addition the Biden administration has circulated the meme that this was the words of a man disturbed and mentally unstable due to his addiction to drugs. Thus the question, is Hunter lying about what the administration said in their meme? Is the administration lying? Are both lying?

It is also my supposition that only a small portion of the bribe monies made it to the USA and thus subject to banking scrutiney. What came to the Biden Crime Syndicate inside the USA was just "walking around money" in my opinion. I suspect the vast amount of the bribe monies are overseas.

16 posted on 06/30/2023 2:06:24 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, consultant, pilot, almost chemist, pharmacist)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Fake like the laptop?


17 posted on 06/30/2023 2:08:11 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: Tupelo

I guess this whole Hunter Biden scandal is really nothing more than a Republican talking point.


Haven’t you been paying attention? More than 50 former intelligence officials have told us that the whole laptop thing is Russian information. Comrade! Doubting government officials is a threat to our democracy!!
/s (for those who need it)


18 posted on 06/30/2023 2:14:47 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Tucsonican

I went to buy a new truck in 1993. I found and ad from a Portland Oregon ford dealer and took it to my local Ford Dealer and ask if they can meet the same price. The ad was for $6000 less than an similar vehicle.

The salesman I handed it to about choked and took it to the Sales Manager. After a while they came back out and said because it had a typographical error on one of the options they wouldn’t. I told them I didn’t type the damned thing and told them that if they thought I wouldn’t drive 200 miles to that dealer they were F’n stupid but assured them they would have to provide warranty service on it. About the time I got to my car they came running out and stopped me. I got the truck I wanted for $16,300. Best new car deal I ever made.


19 posted on 06/30/2023 2:15:03 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: ConservativeInPA
I've been curious about the WhatsApp message. It was created to be like the old Mission Impossible recordings that self-destruct after 60 seconds. Plus it's supposedly got very secure end-to-end encryption:
One of WhatsApp’s main selling points is that it offers End-to-End encryption which means that no one, other than you and who you’re talking to, can read your messages, not even WhatsApp.

Another key point of WhatsApp’s service is that it does not store your chat history on its servers. When you send a message, WhatsApp only keeps that message on its servers until the recipient receives the message or for a max of 30 days. Even then, the end-to-end encryption prevents WhatsApp from reading your message.

The only time a message is stored on WhatsApp’s servers is if the recipient cannot receive it (maybe they’re offline or don’t have a WhatsApp account). In cases like those, the message(s) you sent are automatically deleted off of WhatsApp’s server in 30 days’ time.


20 posted on 06/30/2023 2:48:48 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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