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She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrived
Times of London ^ | Saturday June 17 2023, 6.00pm BST | Christina Lamb in Zolota Nyva, Donetsk

Posted on 06/18/2023 2:48:41 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

What’s this psychologist’s problem? The soldiers have received the “gender affirming” care that the entire world apparently wants..... 🙄 She should be crying tears of joy in having new patients for life.


21 posted on 06/18/2023 3:54:54 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: Zhang Fei
You pegged the needle on this one.


22 posted on 06/18/2023 3:58:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Zhang Fei

Does this mean they haven’t been throwing babies out of incubators?

(Gulf war reference)


23 posted on 06/18/2023 4:04:54 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: McGruff
This article came from the Times of London, which, like most of the British press, spouts propaganda generated by MI-6. This is another case of lies in a long history of prevarication dating back to anti-Spanish propaganda spread by the Hearst press to get us into war with Spain.
24 posted on 06/18/2023 4:06:22 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Zhang Fei

Seem to remember someone saying “war is hell”...or...”hell is war”. Something to that effect. Fake news maybe. Whats real is the fact that there would be peace in Ukraine today if Brandon wasnt installed as puppet for the deep state. So much has happened in the last 2-1/2 years. Remember to look for the coming pre-election 2024 democrat created crisis. In 2019-2020 it was the US funded Wuhan CV19 Lab leak (now we know). Not wet market bat eating BS. And also democrat encouraged race riots over GF. They didnt snuff out PDJT and they’re pissed!


25 posted on 06/18/2023 4:19:52 AM PDT by know.your.why
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To: McGruff

It’s reported in the London Times.
That’s about the gold standard in msm sources.

I suggest you take it up with them.


26 posted on 06/18/2023 4:21:50 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: wastoute

“ONG” really? Bullshit?
True Russians are the flag carriers for Christian values
Got it/s


27 posted on 06/18/2023 4:25:51 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: shoff

The Kuwait incubators story is typical of exaggerated reporting. It was about a vicious act that turned out to be not-quite true. However, the Iraqi military and secret police WAS guilty of other atrocities on a large scale in Kuwait.

It’s about like the WWI British propaganda re German atrocities in Belgium. The British wartime stuff was largely false, but the real thing, which was thoroughly investigated postwar, was vastly worse in scale.


28 posted on 06/18/2023 4:26:55 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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“One of them told me, ‘I don’t know how I am still alive, there was so much blood, I thought I’d die of blood poisoning’,” she said.

Awkwardly worded. Seems like the drunk Russians were castrating women. Thought they had gone woke.

29 posted on 06/18/2023 4:28:33 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: know.your.why

“Whats real is the fact that there would be peace in Ukraine today if Brandon wasnt installed as puppet for the deep state.”

This is true. Trump would have intimidated the Russians into holding off. The Biden administration smelled of weakness.


30 posted on 06/18/2023 4:28:52 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Zhang Fei

well at least our Chief of Naval Operations, Commandant of the Marine Corps, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and SecDef... have all had their balls removed and put in an escrow account, where they can check them out for weekends or for inspection.

They’re not afraid of the Ruskies.... now the Space Force commander and the other female flag officers have a collection of balls on their desks.... it makes everyone know who is in charge....


31 posted on 06/18/2023 4:41:16 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 "deo duce ferro comitantes" <p><b><i></I><i> </i><p>/B><P> <img src=""> )
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To: Zhang Fei

When the Ukraine is winning propaganda doesn’t work, they trot out the Russians are meanies propaganda.


32 posted on 06/18/2023 4:47:28 AM PDT by paintriot (Die with your boots on )
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To: blitz128

I get the sarcasm, but there are people who actually buy that garbage. Laughable.


33 posted on 06/18/2023 4:48:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: wastoute

34 posted on 06/18/2023 4:48:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tupelo

No one cares if you believe it or not.


35 posted on 06/18/2023 4:53:25 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Escapees from Kaiser Permanente.


36 posted on 06/18/2023 4:53:50 AM PDT by dforest
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--- "I'd never heard anything so horrible. I told them I needed the bathroom and went and cried and cried. I didn't want them to see as they might think there's no hope.”

If indeed this Poltava psychologist at age 41 had never seen cases like this, she is naive. As other comments in this thread observe. castration has an extremely long history with Islam over the centuries making it a cultural phenomenon. But rightly observed, transsexual surgery is itself castration, with the Western media acting as cheering squad for it. War crimes too? Of course. Over centuries.

Anzhelika Yatsenko, being a somewhat unusual name, I thought to do a simple internet search. One finds a Iryna Yatsenko in Poltava, a tottii artist with an Instagram following. One finds a Anzhelika Yatsenko in Bonn, studying in Germany. One finds another Anzhelika Yatsenko as a name is found most easily in the English language press in the moment,

One finds the name -- and "never heard anything so horrible" -- in repeated news on Twitter. Yahoo, Daily Mail, Mirror UK, The Australian, Daily Express, Latestly, NY Breaking, Inkl, Facebook reposts, Democratic Undergsound. Coverage of the story spread from Times UK very quickly.

An interesting article, titled "The effects of war on Ukraine's sexual and reproductive health needs," highlighting in part Ukrainian women's needs to include abortion."

In it one reads: "A local doctor recommended that she have the termination at the Poltava regional maternity hospital, specifically the WHFP suite. She went to the hospital, where she was consulted, counseled, checked via ultrasound, and then asked if she was confident with her decision. She had the abortion and said she was pleased with the medical care she received."

And "...echoed by Nerida Williams, IPPF’s senior humanitarian communications adviser, who told openDemocracy: “Russia is using sexual violence as a tactic of war.”
“The curfew imposed by the war means that people aren't outside at night, but rather stuck inside with people they know,” said Anzhelika Yatsenko, one of the leading clinical psychologists in Poltava and a medical trainer for WHFP. “The stress and pressure of the war have a direct impact on the increase of sexual and gender-based violence rates.”

WHFP is "Woman Health & Family Planning" something like Planned Parenthood.

And surgical abortion is the cutting up of a fetus for extraction, which one might consider the phrase, "never heard anything so horrible." Or the alternative view, "She had the abortion and said she was pleased with the medical care she received." Because castration is awful but fetal destruction is pleasing. And "care." From that article: "Men have also suffered from sexual violence, with reports of Russian soldiers castrating captured Ukrainian troops.

Yatsenko told IPPF that she is treating two male patients who were castrated by the Russian army while they were prisoners of war. “These cases have really touched me,” she said. “These soldiers do not want pity but are in severe need of psychological care.”

Source: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/ukraine-russia-war-women-reproductive-health-sexual-violence/

But on Twitter, one reads within the thread from the Times London: "Anzhelika Yatsenko is a psychologist in Poltava, Ukraine who deals with particularly troubled young men. She says: “As someone who gets referred the hardest cases, mostly men under 35, it's very hard to surprise me.”

Source: https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1670142111931400192

But CBS News tells of Ukrainian transgenders -- male to female in the video example, from March 2022 -- in " 'A war within a war': Transgender woman [ a male ] says transphobia and discriminatory laws keeping her hostage in Kyiv during Russian invasion" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transgender-woman-transphobia-russia-ukraine-invasion/

So one may conclude that the "I cried" messaging is what is being spread in only the last 24 hours, while the psychologist actually said, "As someone who gets referred the hardest cases, mostly men under 35, it's very hard to surprise me."

37 posted on 06/18/2023 4:55:58 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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“If there’s hell somewhere, it’s worse than that,”

And please send another $130,000,000,000.

38 posted on 06/18/2023 4:58:13 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: blitz128

Sounds like you are suffering a delusion. Would you care to expand?


39 posted on 06/18/2023 5:05:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)
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--- “ONG” really? Bullshit? True Russians are the flag carriers for Christian values Got it/s"

I got the sarcasm though someone else worries it wasn't clear enough. I agree with the sentiment, and propose an earnest question for you, as an engaging participant in many threads on more than one subject.

Is there in fact any government today that may be said to be a flag carrier for Christian values?

In mulling over the question, I come up with none. Interested in your view. Regards.

40 posted on 06/18/2023 5:06:40 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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