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Trump and DeSantis Are on a Mission to Destroy the Civil Service
Intelligencer via MSN ^ | 15 Jun 23 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 06/15/2023 7:43:40 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

It’s not terribly surprising that Donald Trump wants to tear that system down. His idol, after all, is Andrew Jackson, who championed the “spoils system” as a populist revolt against the emergence of a cadre of professional administrators who remained in federal offices for multiple administrations. But for all his talk of “clearing the swamp” and replacing “deep state” civil servants with his own loyal supporters, Trump didn’t make destruction of the civil-service system a key first-term priority. It wasn’t until October 2020 that he issued an executive order creating a new Schedule F classification of political appointees to include most policymaking positions in the higher levels of the bureaucracy. Like a lot of alarming things Trump proposed, Schedule F didn’t get implemented, and Joe Biden quickly revoked the executive order and restored the traditional civil service.

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Like Trump, DeSantis believes that federal law-enforcement agencies are abusing power systematically whenever they get in the way of conservative policy initiatives or prosecute Republican officeholders. So his makeover plan will focus on decapitating the FBI and the Department of Justice generally, according to Philip Wegmann of RealClearPolitics:

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been working for months on plans to tear down and rebuild both the Department of Justice and the FBI, consulting with experts and members of Congress to develop a “Day One” strategy to end what conservatives see as the weaponization of the justice system.

The governor has privately told advisors that he will hire and fire plenty of federal personnel, reorganize entire agencies, and execute a “disciplined” and “relentless” strategy to restore the Justice Department to a mission more in line with what the “Founding Fathers envisioned.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: agitprop; civilservice; desantis; florida; rondesantis; russiansuicide; swamp; trump; whydontyoulovevlad
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Supposed to and what is are worlds apart and always will be!


81 posted on 06/15/2023 10:12:55 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Also Constitutionally there is no popular direct election of the president but there is!


82 posted on 06/15/2023 10:17:31 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They’re trying to compare DeSantos to the Trump camp...lol

That not worky Latranny....Get real...


83 posted on 06/15/2023 10:18:16 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If Jackson’s his hero he must have not read the chapter on spending.


84 posted on 06/15/2023 10:37:17 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Wuli

Good points!


85 posted on 06/15/2023 10:37:42 AM PDT by econjack
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To: uranium penguin

Job security needs to go away. Without Civil Service job security there is not the incentive to build power for the office and by extension for the bureaucracy.


86 posted on 06/15/2023 10:38:53 AM PDT by arthurus ( * Covefe )
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To: Erik Latranyi

As a former Civil service worker and later non union part of management I HOPE THEY SUCCEED!


87 posted on 06/15/2023 10:41:27 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: Roadrunner383

The rule of thumb was to never pick a VP that would outshine you and the choice of Sarah Palin by McCain proved that completely. However DeSantis as VP is likely a good choice. No one can out shine Trump. Ever. DeSantis knows his place in the Chain of Command and would likely do exactly as he is told by his Commander, should he be asked to step into the boss’s shoes, he’d do his best to maintain the mission. Trump and the people of the United States could do worse than DeSantis as VP. Excluding Trump at the top of the ticket I would probably go with DeSantis. At least he was never a Senator and isn’t a clown as Governor. Governor make good Presidents, (okay, excluding Carter) and Senators make terrible Presidents (see Barry Odumbo and Joe Hiden).


88 posted on 06/15/2023 10:45:27 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: econjack

I would also add that I would tell the states (which are already “legalizing” drugs (like Marijuana) on their own) that they have one year to set their own list of banned drugs, and set up their own DEA. The remainder of the Federal DEA would only involve drugs in interstate transactions (transporting accross state lines IF it was “federally” banned or banned by the state being transported to). All other drug enforcements would be handled by the states. Outisde of that there would be no federal laws concerning mere possession or use. The states are already in the business of “liberalizing” state laws on that one matter and the Federal government should step out of it and let them handle such cases all on their own.


89 posted on 06/15/2023 10:46:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Erik Latranyi

Added topic “Editorial” which I think is more accurate than “Front Page News.”


90 posted on 06/15/2023 10:52:06 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Colo9250

The Deep state will not permit this—they will have a coup first.


91 posted on 06/15/2023 10:58:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Trump and DeSantis Are on a Mission to Destroy the Civil Service
Too late. It's happening from within.
92 posted on 06/15/2023 11:15:48 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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To: Reily

I agree with your concept Reily. Originally, in the 78 law, the IGs were going to report directly to Congress but the Executive, Carter’s admin, disagreed with that so they got the reports to agency head with a go around in significant matters. My recall of the go around being used less than dozen times.

Most of the original Law established IGs were kick ass guys. As time went on, the politically savy mostly won out IMO.


93 posted on 06/15/2023 11:17:42 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: alloysteel; Vigilanteman; z3n

The whole article is a lie. It is so slanted you need to lie on your side to read it. Appears to be written by a federal employees union steward or even higher up the food chain. Whatever the position nothing but a lackey.

Trump’s executive order was so that he could actually fire the drones that weren’t doing their jobs. It of course had nothing to do with creating a spoils system for “his people”. I sure didn’t see any of “his people” being very loyal to him and still don’t. With friends like his, who needs enemies?

I have posted in these pages before that my late Father was a gooberment employee for about 40 years. I can remember when the union came to town. He was required to provide the union steward an office space so he put him in a cyclone fenced space used to keep the chainsaws and such. It fit the requirement of secure and dedicated.

From that point of the union invasion it became a much less place to work.


94 posted on 06/15/2023 11:27:49 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

About time. It’s not a service. It’s a club of ripoff artist that provides minimal service at best.


95 posted on 06/15/2023 11:30:18 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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To: Mouton

Agree completely!


96 posted on 06/15/2023 11:37:18 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: uranium penguin

You’re behind the times on #2.
Since 1985 their primary retirement is from a 401K. They still get a small annuity based on time served.


97 posted on 06/15/2023 11:40:18 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: subterfuge

According to the inflation calculator...

...$18,000 in 1968 is equal to $157,307 today.


98 posted on 06/15/2023 11:41:15 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: Erik Latranyi

As Ronald Reagan said, “Government is not the solution, Government is the problem.”

If one wants to solve the government spending problem, if one wants to solve the problems of government over regulation, then reducing the number of people in civil service is a viable goal.


99 posted on 06/15/2023 11:47:02 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Erik Latranyi

And the problem is?🤨


100 posted on 06/15/2023 12:05:14 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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