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To: odawg
As Robert Barnes would say, does a nameless person in an agency in the executive branch have more authority, under the Constitution, than does the President, and requires the President ask for permission to do such and such?

That analysis is bunk. It’s clearly not that executive branch employee who is more powerful than the President, it’s the laws that are more powerful than the President. I agree he’s being unfairly persecuted when compared to others, but laws that govern how the executive branch operates do limit the President.

The examples of this are limitless. I gave one above, that the President cannot order Air Force One, to do illegal things, even though it is an executive branch asset. He can’t order them to try to fly it to the moon, just to see what happens. Their are FAA laws, an executive branch organization, that make that an illegal order.

Another example is sending the US military to the southern border to enforce it. The Posse Comitatus law prevented Trump from doing it. Guess you don’t remember. Yes it would have been great if he could have done that, but he couldn’t legally, even though the military is an Executive Branch function and he was the President.

152 posted on 06/15/2023 4:57:16 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Golden Eagle
That analysis is bunk. It’s clearly not that executive branch employee who is more powerful than the President, it’s the laws that are more powerful than the President.

Laws have powers? Really? That's your understanding of the Constitution? Try to use the lexicon and principles found in the Constitution. Laws don't have powers. Legislators have legislative powers (and other powers such as the power of the purse). The president has executive power.

So now go back and address the executive branch document issue (or the lame Air Force One in a corn field issue if you must), using principles from the Constitution.

And for starters, NO, the legislators with their law making powers are NOT "more powerful than the President". We have equal branches of government.

162 posted on 06/15/2023 8:53:58 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Golden Eagle

“Another example is sending the US military to the southern border to enforce it. The Posse Comitatus law prevented Trump from doing it.”

That analysis is bunk. The Posse Comitatus act prevents the military from being used as police, under certain circumstances. Bush sent the military into Los Angles to stop the Rodney King riots. Guess you don’t remember. Trump sent in the national guard to stop riots himself. The military could be sent to the border to stop an invasion. Trump did not have to; he built a wall.

The Air Force One example is too absolutely stupid to comment on.

The president has the Constitutional authority to de-classify top secret documents. He does not have to get permission from anyone, under the powers ganted to the presidency by the Constitution. De-classifying documents is established law; the president alone has that power. And no individual in an agency has the power to prevent him from doing so, or to jump through hoops to accomplish it.


165 posted on 06/15/2023 10:15:33 AM PDT by odawg
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