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Column: The last gasps of the party of Reagan
LA Times ^ | June 9, 2023 | JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 06/09/2023 6:27:10 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA

Win one as the Gipper? Good luck with that.

This week the Republican field for the presidency took near-final form, and it became clear that among Donald Trump’s suddenly expanded number of rivals, some are modeling themselves to varying degrees on that other former president, Ronald Reagan. That strategy is a way of breaking, if only implicitly, with Trump and Trumpism: going back to the future by invoking the most beloved of modern presidents among Republicans.

Of all the announced candidates, none is more overt about embracing Reagan over Trump than Trump’s once-obsequious vice president, Mike Pence. At 64, Pence is among the older Trump challengers in the bunch, old enough for Reagan to have been a formative influence for him in real time — as Pence recounted in his presidential announcement in Iowa on Wednesday

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Paraphrasing Lloyd Benston, “I knew the Gipper. You are no Gipper.”
1 posted on 06/09/2023 6:27:10 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Reagan would applaud Trump’s policies, even though President Trump and President Reagan used very different styles.


2 posted on 06/09/2023 6:30:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: ConservativeInPA

Ho hum, and the same media outlets back in about 1980 and onwards lectured about how Reagan himself was the antithesis or betrayer of ones like Gerald Ford and even Dwight Eisenhower.


3 posted on 06/09/2023 6:30:58 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: ConservativeInPA

Where is Pence’s condemnation of the garbage Federal indictment of President Trump? Where is DeSantis’s?


4 posted on 06/09/2023 6:31:09 AM PDT by GoKnow ( )
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“Mike Pence”

ha ha ha ...snort ...

He's just legally collecting the pay off ... what a scum

5 posted on 06/09/2023 6:31:10 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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Paraphrasing Lloyd Benston, “I knew the Gipper. You are no Gipper.”

Hard to believe that a LOT more time has passed since Bentsen said that in 1988 and now than the time between Kennedy's death and then.
6 posted on 06/09/2023 6:36:26 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: ConservativeInPA

LAT is fine with the demise of a free America.


7 posted on 06/09/2023 6:37:57 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: 1of10

Pence has no chance in he** of becoming President and I believe the RINOs know it and like it that way. I believe the RINOs like McConnell like being in the minority. That way, they don’t need to do much to collect their paychecks and can blame everything on the Dems.


8 posted on 06/09/2023 6:38:54 AM PDT by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Spot on. The media despised Reagan back then.


9 posted on 06/09/2023 6:40:34 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: ConservativeInPA

Reagan was a republican back when there were actual republicans doing republican things. For instance, there were these things called the federal budget and the government had to live within the budget. There were also actual republicans working inside the federal bureaucracy to institute republican policies. That’s all gone now.


10 posted on 06/09/2023 6:43:04 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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I agree with Attorney Lin Wood, who Predicts Pence ‘Will Face Execution by Firing Squad’.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2021/01/02/attorney-lin-wood-bizarrely-predicts-pence-will-face-execution-by-firing-squad-and-sing-like-a-bird-n1298065


11 posted on 06/09/2023 6:44:46 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Times have changed dramatically since the 1980s. The Cold War is over - thanks in no small part to Reagan ending it.

Reagan believed in limited government, he was socially conservative and he stayed out of foreign wars. The populists and nationalists support all of those things still.

We did not have the giveaway trade deals like NAFTA and the WTO and the TPP under Reagan. Also China was economically backward and did not have access to the US market under Reagan.

Ronaldus Magnus was great for his time. The right policies today would be different. Times have changed.


12 posted on 06/09/2023 6:49:35 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Reagan said he felt like he shook the hand of the president, when he shook hands with Trump.

What did Reagan say about Pence?


13 posted on 06/09/2023 6:55:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: GoKnow

Exactly!


14 posted on 06/09/2023 6:59:00 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Putting Mike Pants in the same league with Ronald Reagan is like putting an AMC Pacer in the same league with a Mercedes 300SL Gullwing.

FUMP.


15 posted on 06/09/2023 7:02:18 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yeah statewide abortions while governor and illegal Alien love and citizenship as president. Definitely need more of that.


16 posted on 06/09/2023 7:05:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: ConservativeInPA

The dumber part of all articles like this is that it defines “party” as the party structure, not its voters. Or even its office-holders.

It seems to me that Trumps support comes almost entirely from the sort of person who voted or volunteered for Reagan.


17 posted on 06/09/2023 7:07:54 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: FLT-bird

Indeed.


18 posted on 06/09/2023 7:09:21 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Pence will crash and burn and follow the pattern set by Jeb -- only worse.

Who can forget the line-up of primary wannabes in Trump's first run? The spectacle of those losers on a stage with Trump still exists in my mind and in the image below.

Do you remember??


19 posted on 06/09/2023 7:13:54 AM PDT by icclearly
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“Yeah statewide abortions while governor and illegal Alien love and citizenship as president. Definitely need more of that.”

You disapprove of President Reagan and you hate President Trump. Which Republican President of the last hundred years measures up to your standards?


20 posted on 06/09/2023 7:20:14 AM PDT by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam )
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