Posted on 06/06/2023 1:52:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
California will soon become the first state to determine residents’ electricity fees based on their income as part of a new effort to spur households toward full electrification and bring down the state’s soaring electricity costs for low-income Californians.
Electricity bills are made up of fixed costs as well as fees that vary based on the amount of electricity residents use. Last year, the state passed a law giving the California public utilities commission a 1 July 2024 deadline to determine a fixed charge for household electric bills based on people’s income.
The new income-based electricity bills could hit residents’ mailboxes as soon as 2025. Based on proposals currently under consideration, residents who make more than $180,000 a year could pay about $500 more annually on their electricity bills, while Californians who make less than $28,000 annually could save up to $300 a year. The law is part of the state’s answer of how to equitably transition away from carbon as an energy source.
But state officials are already facing backlash from higher-income residents who don’t want to see their bills increase. The proposals have so far received more than 250 public comments, with a large number opposing the law.
“Why should I pay for someone else’s bill when I paid thousands for solar?” one commenter wrote.
California currently has some of the highest electricity costs of any state, according to a report that suggested the income-based model. California’s electricity prices range from one and a half times to double the national average.
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I recently had a young lady ring my doorbell (despite the “No Solicitation” sign) in SE Michigan with a petition, claiming to be from a group promoting ‘clean water’. (This is a big deal here, with proximity to 4/5 Great Lakes) In questioning her regarding the petition, her group and its views, I finally got to the crux of the issue: They were trying to get signatures to get legislation passed to tie water bills to income. There are widely varying rates among the different municipalities surrounding Detroit, and that fact is may spark debate over why this is the case, quite legitimately. However, any government sanctioned fleecing of people who either worked hard for their good fortune or even those who inherited it is pure bovine excrement!!!!
Pure “d” old communism, as my grandpa would say.
Having been born in 1880,he can’t say it any more.
History conveniently forgets there were free blacks, Texicans, former Spanish subjects, Chinese, and even Native Americans that owned land, businesses, slaves, etc prior to 1865.
I know that you are right, anyone that can, will construct their own generator. The only problem is that as more people do the more it is likely that California will use permitting and private electricity taxation.
Reverend Wright answered your questions:
“It does make sense. Everything they do has the goal of increasing their power.”
Forcing more electricity consumption while limiting generating and transmission capacity and increasing the costs via solar and wind mandates... every single one of these thing increases their power over the people struggling to pay their bills.
The oligarchs that control CA don’t care about the extra cost.
It impoverishes the middle class and makes them even more dependent on benefits and subsidies that the oligarchs control.
51 posted on 6/6/2023, 3:00:55 PM by Reverend Wright “
“For most it doesn’t work in term of economics but in this instance they are pissing off the wealthy. Who knows what they will do.”
The truly wealthy with assets in the 30/60 + million $ assets are not bothered by these piddling amounts in their world.
It’s not the electric usage. It’s a monthly fee to upgrade the grid. Perhaps it will go away once the work is done.
“I finally got to the crux of the issue: They were trying to get signatures to get legislation passed to tie water bills to income.”
This is probably happening in every blue county/city and maybe state in America.
From each according to his ability…
Wonder who said that.
Electricity use will go through the roof. The lower classes have no incentive to control use.
California still leads the nation: in the number of people leaving that state. But give New York second place honors for driving productive citizens out of their socialistic hellhole. Additionally, let’s not forget Illinois and New Jersey, also places where productive people are bailing out.
I agree. Children are just like little mockingbirds of their “Teachers.” They regurgitate whatever crap they are taught in school. Most of the time, they haven’t a clue about what they are talking about.
LMAO
Frederic Bastiat in his superb classic work “The Law” calls it “plunder”. He goes into all the types of plunder.
Anyone that has not read this great work should do so. It’s short and it’s excellent.
There is also a children’s version now. Get a copy for your children or grandchildren.
I would think this is illegal.
“Doing too many drugs...”
How many drugs are normal?
You sell it all and give it to the poor, just like Jesus and Marx and Newsom told you to. /s
Looks like NYS is getting in on the act, too...
Check out the excuse for the rate hike...
https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/nyseg-proposes-22-rate-increase-over-three-years/
Assistance to low-income customers?!
When taxpayers are paying for LIHEAP to the tune of billions.
Low-income assistance, my derriere.
And note that electricity users get screwed even more than nat gas customers in the proposal...
Sorta related, from Upstate NY. Now sewer tax is subsidized, too, for low income residents...
https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/check-your-bill-buffalo-sewer-rent-increases-over-50
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