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To: McGruff

while i do feel we do have an obligation to Ukraine having convinced them to give up their nukes (stupid move WJC) and Biden’s delay in supplying agreed upon weapons pre-invasion, leading to the invasion, it’s over a year now. it’s obvious to recapture all that Z intends is unrealistic based on what has happened so far. Biden should have had this 2/3 won by now - and blew that too. time for a deal. Ukraine can continue its war of reclamation on its own in the future if it chooses and can have a better plan. but i think we have done what we could.


12 posted on 06/05/2023 1:08:56 AM PDT by avital2
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To: avital2

This war should have never started. Biden’s actions and rhetoric at that time suggest he wanted it.


14 posted on 06/05/2023 1:46:53 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: avital2
while i do feel we do have an obligation to Ukraine having convinced them to give up their nukes

Ukraine never owned nukes. The Soviet Union owned and controlled those nukes.

After the Soviet breakup, the participants had to decide who got custody of what, as in any divorce. Russia got the USSR's seat on the UN Security Council. Russia also got all the nukes.

Did Ukraine have a choice? Soviet soldiers (many -- most? --- of them Russian) manned the nukes that were stationed in Ukraine. Essentially, the Russians took home what was theirs.

16 posted on 06/05/2023 2:40:07 AM PDT by Angelino97
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