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The Russian Navy Is So Broke It Is Scraping Its Biggest Submarine Ever
MSN ^ | 6-4 | Peter Suciu

Posted on 06/04/2023 8:31:35 AM PDT by dennisw

It all came down to costs, and Moscow apparently couldn't afford to keep operating what had been the world's largest nuclear-powered submarine.

In February, Russia decommissioned its Project 941 Akula-class (NATO reporting name Typhoon) heavy nuclear-powered missile-carrying submarine cruiser Dmitry Donskoy years earlier than expected. It was just two years ago that the Kremlin announced the boat would remain in service until at least 2026, even as its role was reportedly limited to that of a weapons test platform for the new Borei-, Borei-A-, Yasen- and Yasen-M-class submarines

However, this week, it was confirmed that Dmitry Donskoi was decommissioned in February due to cost considerations. It had served for more than 40 years in the Northern Fleet.

"The Dmitry Donskoi could no longer be in service due to its spent nuclear core," a source in the Russian Navy told state media outlet Tass on Thursday.

The Dmitry Donskoi’s Career Initially designated the TK-208, she was the lead vessel of the Soviet third-generation Akula-class (Russian for "Shark"). She entered service in 1981 with the Soviet Navy, and after a 12-year overhaul and refit that began in 1990, she reentered service in 2002 as the Dmitry Donskoi, named after the Grand Duke of Moscow Dmitry Donskoy (1359–1389), the reputed founder of Moscow.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: 1945; dmitrydonsko; dmitrydonskoi; navy; onthebrink; petersuciu; rublestoukrainewar; russia; russiannavy; scraping; subs; typhoonclass
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To: dennisw
MSN...LoL...The United States has spent more for the war than Russia. Russia has only about 3% of their GDP in this action. Meanwhile, their deficit is reported to be about $426 billion versus our $32 trillion. They have over $75 trillion in natural resources (1st in the world) verus the United States have $45 trillion (2nd most).

They are doing just fine.

41 posted on 06/04/2023 9:30:21 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: dennisw
All you got is throwing names like a liberal clown. Look at the people you support. Biden, Soros, Nuland, Hillary, and every other America destroying lowlife around. Oh, their intentions are good in Ukraine. Sure they are.
42 posted on 06/04/2023 9:30:45 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: JonPreston

Scraping barnicles?


43 posted on 06/04/2023 9:34:33 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: dennisw

MSN is the US equivalent of TASS😂


44 posted on 06/04/2023 9:35:35 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: Pan_Yan

Or even a spell check for thier headline😂


45 posted on 06/04/2023 9:36:38 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: dennisw

“ Broke”?

Or pragmatically adapting their naval fleet to meet current threats and weapon systems?

They can afford this
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/europe/russia-belgorod-submarine-nuclear-torpedo-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

And this
https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/putin-may-test-underwater-nuke-150-times-stronger-than-hiroshima-bomb-near-ukrainian-border-report/


46 posted on 06/04/2023 9:44:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: Pan_Yan

Built confusing:

The SSBN:
Russian Designation: Project 941 Akula
NATO Designation: Typhoon

The SSN:
Russian Designation: Project 971 Shchuka-B
NATO Designation: Akula


47 posted on 06/04/2023 9:45:46 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: dennisw
However, this week, it was confirmed that Dmitry Donskoi was decommissioned in February due to cost considerations.

Putin has mostly reigned in its money-sucking oligarchs and their demands on taxpayers, Russia has almost no debt, and it doesn't have the world's reserve currency that allows it to fund decades of government debt and a constant 3-4% current account deficit.

No one argues these points. So yes, unlike US Fed.gov - I image they actually have to manage and optimize their spending.

48 posted on 06/04/2023 9:48:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Angelino97

“Boys are BOYS and Girls are GIRLS”


49 posted on 06/04/2023 9:49:38 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Captain Walker
Clearly, the Russians haven't mastered the art of using a great big credit card the way the Americans have.

Free and unaccountable money is a very dangerous thing. It gives the appearance of wealth and strength, but often hides vast mismanagement and corruption.

I have an ominous feeling that some day soon, American weapons systems (and much of what Fed.gov does) will not protect us or serve the people even in a basic way - and we will all come to a collective moment of realization when we ask "We spent $$ Trillion on that - with NO result?" We'll finally rip the lid off and see all the rot and worms hiding beneath the gilded surface.

50 posted on 06/04/2023 9:55:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: janetjanet998
Russia is a huge country with many resources

Russia is not even in the top 10 economic powers of the world, and even Canada comes in ahead of them.
51 posted on 06/04/2023 9:59:16 AM PDT by adorno
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To: dennisw

Since no one else noticed, Dmitry Donskoi is a saint in the Orthodox Church. He was a prince of Moscow in the 1300s, and the first Russian to openly fight against the Mongols, during the time of Timur (Tamerlane), the meanest of the mean Mongol dudes.

When was the last time a USN sub was named after a fighting saint?

(Two possibilities, if we ever wanted to be religious in our vessel-naming, come to mind. The Catholic one is John Neumann, Catholic bishop of Philadelphia who fought against the riots and church burnings of the Know-Nothings. The Protestant one would be Henry Ward Beecher, best known for fighting slavery to the point of sending rifles to abolitionists prior to the Civil War, and going to Europe during the war to keep European governments from openly supporting the Confederacy, similar to Franklin in Paris four generations earlier.)3


52 posted on 06/04/2023 10:01:08 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: dennisw

"You lost ANOTHER submarine???"

53 posted on 06/04/2023 10:03:32 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: dennisw

all my boats are razor blades now


54 posted on 06/04/2023 10:03:48 AM PDT by mylife (I was a sort of country boy, a cockeyed optimist, wrapped in international intrigue and espionage)
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To: chajin
Interesting character.....

"By the end of his reign, Dmitry had more than doubled the territory of the Principality of Moscow." -

"Dmitry's early reign was to start building the Moscow Kremlin; it was completed in 1367"......


55 posted on 06/04/2023 10:09:31 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: PGR88

If the Russians ever peg the ruble to gold, our day of reckoning will come sooner than we want it to.


56 posted on 06/04/2023 10:12:10 AM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: real saxophonist

Sorry, but its not correct to say that “Peter Suciu is an idiot who writes for the crap blog 19fortyfive.”

Beleive it or not he is a “Senior Editor” for 19fortyfive.
Indeed, as a trend-setter for American Journalism, he is one of the new generation of Senior Editor who specializes in misspelling headlines.

One who uses “scraping” (which is what you do with sanpaper) for “scrapping” which is what you do with a worn out ship or car.

But this is nitpicking. The rest of his aricle, you can take it to the bank.


57 posted on 06/04/2023 10:12:40 AM PDT by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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To: AndyJackson

all razor blades now


58 posted on 06/04/2023 10:13:45 AM PDT by mylife (I was a sort of country boy, a cockeyed optimist, wrapped in international intrigue and espionage)
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To: janetjanet998

There supply is rapidly attriting their know supplies of missile types and by the end of the year, if they keep up the current pace, be using only what they can produce - they reserve stocks will be gone.

The can only produce a few SU-34s a year, and the SU-35 line is shut down.

Yes huge resources but they cannot access them. Most are locked up in the Siberian tundra were life is extremely difficult. And working there is problematic with Russian 1930s logistics and the harsh conditions.


59 posted on 06/04/2023 10:17:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That was my thought or maybe the paint did no turn out right.


60 posted on 06/04/2023 10:20:58 AM PDT by pas
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