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To: A strike

“Your pride in your ignorance and illogic is amazing.
A simpleton, ahem, sees this as one dimensional situation with Only a one size fits all cause and solution.”

Actually, a simpleton fails to see what’s most logical, which describes you to a T.

“This U.S. - Russia proxxy war was promulgated and is perpetuated by the deepstate you are supporting.”

You have just proved my point that you subscribe to the totalitarian mindset: If one agrees with only 1% of something, and rejects 99% of that something, one is forever associated with, and condemned for, the 1%. I said I favor Ukraine repelling its invader. From that you rush to judgment and jump to the conclusion that I am a supporter of the deep state, even after I pointed out to you previously that my position is in spite of Biden, and that would necessarily include his administration.

Your embrace of a totalitarian mindset does not surprise me, as your posting history supports that.

“Claiming Ukraine must repel its invader, (from Crimea, really?) as your holy grail and that is the only factor is single celled ‘thinking’.”

Again, you assume facts not in evidence.

For instance, my preference would be for Russia to call it quits right now and leave Ukraine — the Ukraine of its internationally recognized and accepted boundaries prior to Russia’s 2014 invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea — and go back to Russia. That would stop the killing and carnage. But, of course, Russia cares not a whit about such death and destruction, and its history shows it.

“Calling you out on it does not make me a pro-Russia cheerleader. I want a cease fire, not tens of thousands of new deaths satisfy your ‘as long as it takes’ hallucination.”

You are naiive. A cease fire now would be a huge victory for Russia, as any such cease fire would necessarily be predicated on keeping the boundaries claimed by Russia, in which case Ukraine would have to give up 20% of its territory, and 95% of its natural resources while “mediators” dithered and posed and pontificated, and Russia used the time to bulk up its war machine. Because right now that is the only cease fire Russia would agree to.

Ukraine, on the other hand, takes the position that a cease fire must be predicated on Russia WITHDRAWING from Ukraine entirely. In other words, return to the status quo of the pre-2014 invasion.

Do you realize that in 1994 Russia acknowledged Ukraine’s national boundaries as they existed at that time? And that included Crimea and all of eastern Ukraine? Do you realize that Russia even acted upon that acknowledgement when it leased from Ukraine the Crimean port? One does not lease something from someone if one does not believe that someone actually owns the subject of the lease.

“You still didn’t answer about how you liked that NordStream II caper.”

I neither liked nor disliked it: I am waiting for concrete evidence as to who damaged it; and conjecture and speculation and wishful thinking do not concrete evidence make.

“Too bad it was also an act of war against NATO ally Germany and severely hurt their energy sector.”

It was arguably an act of war against someone by someone. And if a charge of committing an act of war is to be brought, then there damn well better be the evidence to support the charge.

Get it, kid?


81 posted on 06/05/2023 5:32:45 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Thou dost protest too much, i.e.totally truth butt hurt.
Your totalitarian red herring is not in evidence and even if it were is an irrelevant distraction. But actually, my bad, you do not show support for the deepstate, just for this deepstate’s U.S. proxxy war against Russia. You favor repelling the invader fits right in with continuing the killing for as long as it takes. It would all end if Russia would just get out, sorry snowflake unicorn that train left the station a while back when Ukraine-Russ negotiations were torpedoed by Washington/London in April 22 and your preference doesn’t mean jack. You are the naive one, Crimea and Odessa have been Russia since 1700s, no way in hell they’re going back ‘cause of bloody vampiress Nuland’s war but you’re still all in, get with reality.
Only total dumb@$$es don’t know that Biden did Nordstream II.


82 posted on 06/05/2023 8:23:31 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: ought-six

1994 , would that be the Minsk/Minsk II agreements that Merkle and Macron have acknowledged were a total lie to enable the West/U.S./NATO to build up Ukraine ?


83 posted on 06/05/2023 8:33:18 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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