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To: dfwgator

> Erdogan wants Ottoman Empire 2.0 <

Yes. Erdogan is a thorn in the side of the globalists. But he’s also an Islamist who thinks that Mustafa Atatürk’s idea of a non-secular Turkey is oh so yesterday.

Dangerous stuff there.


9 posted on 05/28/2023 1:35:21 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

“Yes. Erdogan is a thorn in the side of the globalists. But he’s also an Islamist who thinks that Mustafa Atatürk’s idea of a non-secular Turkey is oh so yesterday. Dangerous stuff there.”

I actually agree with you. My problem is that we need triage at this point. First, the Neocons have to be stopped before they barrel their way into World War 3, due to their blood-lust to destroy Russia (I guess no one told them that Russian nukes can reach the US).

After that, I would not mind at all in seeing an Ataturk style government return.


10 posted on 05/28/2023 1:41:09 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Leaning Right

All it takes is a weakened Russia to enable it.


12 posted on 05/28/2023 1:42:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Leaning Right

He’s also partial to the idea of extending this Neo-Ottoman Empire out to the ancestral homeland - Turkmenistan.


15 posted on 05/28/2023 1:49:44 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Leaning Right

Yes. Erdogan is a thorn in the side of the globalists. But he’s also an Islamist who thinks that Mustafa Atatürk’s idea of a non-secular Turkey is oh so yesterday.
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1. Ataturk was the militantly secular one, not pro-Muslim Erdogan. (Typo?)

2. How does Erdogan treat Christians and Jews?


17 posted on 05/28/2023 1:54:43 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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I think I messed my post #9 up. It should read:

Erdogan is a thorn in the side of the globalists. But he’s also an Islamist who thinks that Mustafa Atatürk’s idea of a secular Turkey is oh so yesterday.

18 posted on 05/28/2023 1:55:53 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right; dfwgator; BeauBo; MalPearce; SpeedyInTexas; Monterrosa-24; Williams; libh8er; PIF; ..

I do think Erdogan wants Ottoman Empire 2.0. Turkey has a history connected with Crimea. An important question is whether he thinks he could get a better deal if Ukraine reclaimed in, or if Russia keeps it. I suspect he would be just as happy if Russia did not have gunboats stationed in Sevastopol, but rather sequestered in the Sea of Azov.

Regarding Erdogon and Trump, I was interested to see a while ago that Trump’s sons have a business relationship with Erdogon’s family members. Also, I think Trump was working on a big real estate deal in Turkey. I don’t know the results or details in either case.

Regarding the election itself, at least Erdogon did not win 97% of the vote, so perhaps there is still hope for staving off totalitarian islamic dictatorship for the moment.


29 posted on 05/29/2023 1:33:45 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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