Posted on 05/24/2023 6:26:04 AM PDT by McGruff
—”The “quick victory”, and 3 days meme is from DC and London. No Russian ever said it that I’ve seen.”
“Russian Officials Predicted A Quick Triumph In Ukraine. Did Bad Intelligence Skew Kremlin Decision-Making?”
The day after Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a Russian lawmaker who also happens to be the grandson of one of the most famous diplomats of the 20th century gave a speech in parliament.
In his speech, Vyacheslav Nikonov quoted his grandfather, Vyacheslav Molotov, who negotiated the Molotov-Ribbentrop deal that carved up Poland and much of Eastern Europe — and made a prediction.
“The enemy will be defeated and victory will be ours. And I have no doubts about this,” he said.
Sixteen days into Russia’s war, Nikonov’s prediction, echoed by other Russian politicians, has not come to pass.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-invasion-ukraine-intelligence-putin/31748594.html
Do you simply crank the BS out unaided?
Take drugs?
Use an AI BS generator?
Looks like you have a process of elimination underway.
And it would appear that Ukrainians are going to keep it buried. They might have been somewhat skeptical about the Kremlin sending in their crack team of Red Dawn reenactors last year because of things like this:
"First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century"
-V.V. Putin, 2005
The criminal Russians, the Chechens, and the other Mohammedans will be killed. Death to all Bolsheviks!
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Chill out, it’s not our fight- yet. Did the fall of Zelensky’s “ Fortress Bakmut”
( his words) enrage you? You war cheerleaders still have a chance, that only chance being escalation by your war leader Biden.
Best for Zelensky to start negotiations before he finishes destroying Ukraine, the Ukrainian people have been through enough.
Yes, I know the neocons and MSM love to take that quote out of context as you did and use it as “proof” that Putin is a commie and “wants to bring back communism”.
In context: “First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory. The epidemic of collapse has spilled over to Russia itself.”
Putin had been decrying alleged discrimination against ethnic Russians in former Soviet republics, mainly the Baltics, so this is more of the same. Now you might disagree with this, or think he carries on too much about that, but it is what it is.
He likely also meant the new unipolar world, where we emerged as sole hegemon (for awhile, stupidly squandered and gone now, but in 2005 we were still King Daddy of the planet). While we billed ourselves as a benign hegemon out to enforce a “rules-based order”, we didn’t follow our own rules in places like former Yugoslavia, Libya, etc. And we ran around doing regime changes and Arab Springs and shoving lefty woke nonsense down the throats of other cultures. So a number of other countries didn’t exactly see us as benign.
Anyone who has done even a cursory study of Putin knows he hates communism.
From an article hardly sympathetic to Putin:
“Yet all of Putin’s other actions and values scream a hatred of communism—both the idea and the way it was implemented. Indeed, they suggest that he in fact worships capitalism.
Take, for starters, the laws adopted during Putin’s presidency.
When at the dawn of his presidency Putin achieved passage of the natural resource extraction tax through extensive lobbying efforts, the public applauded this populist move. The hydrocarbon profits, it seemed, would now flow back to the people.
It soon turned out, however, that the “superprofits” flowed in a different direction. Rather than helping to finance rural gas infrastructure projects and secure access to the sewage system, improve health care, and increase social benefits, part of the new hydrocarbon cash got stashed away in the Stabilization Fund. Other parts ended up as dividends and payments to Putin’s friends and the managers of their companies. Still others were used to strengthen the repressive state apparatus protecting the mobsters.”
Link: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/putins-fixers
See also:
Again, I am not defending Putin. Again, I hardly consider him Mr. Nice Guy. I am no fan. But one can criticize him for a long list of very real things. No need to make stuff up and c!aim he’s a die-hard commie.
Putin appreciated the power of the Soviet Union on the world stage, but that doesn’t mean he agreed with their internal economic policies.
Kinda hard taking that out of context.
The more relevant question is whether the tens of millions who had previously lived lived under the oppressive mediocrity of the USSR took it out of context. That is highly unlikely. They knew exactly what he meant, based on what we've been seeing for the last 15 months.
Exactly. Communism was ugly in many other fronts, too, not just the economic one. (Yes, I hate communism.)
Considering that all the Russians I knew, even during the starving Yeltsin years, hated communism with a passion, and Putin’s approval rating is over 80%, I think they took it in context as I said.
You are stuck in your mindset and nothing will change that.
Lots about how the Khokhols need to be killed because they don't want to come back under Kremlin control. Solovyev and the well-fed wench from the Russian media do the same thing. The need to drag people down to the commie's level of suckdom is classic commie behavior.
A commie by any other name is still a commie.
“...Best for Zelensky to start negotiations before he finishes destroying Ukraine...”
You have the most perverted logic ever. The invader is guilty, not the defender. The occupied Donbas suffers human rights outrages regularly as my family Alchevsk can tell you. Just as in Soviet times, the Russian love to move populations around and now the common laborers in the Lugansk region are being brought in from the Russian far east while the human trafficking in Ukrainians continues.
The defenders of this criminal activity are criminals themselves. You are a criminal. And no, I will not “chill out”.
The criminal Russians, the Chechens, the Buryats, and the other Mohammedans must be killed. Death to all Bolsheviks!
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