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To: FarCenter

Nice propaganda article from China.

Bachmut hasn’t yet fallen, as the article admits, many months after it was expected.

The operations on the flanks are indeed “diversionary” because they threaten an encirclement of the main Russian forces.

I’m unaware that Ukraine and the media aren’t publishing what happens in the city, I see a map every day which now shows the city is 95% under Russian control.

Going to the G8 to get more support could not possibly be a “fool’s errand”.

No one is in denial about Bachmut, rather they are in amazement about what Ukraine has accomplished.


20 posted on 05/20/2023 5:06:50 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

“they are in amazement about what Ukraine has accomplished.”

Yup—the greatest propaganda campaign in the history of the planet.


33 posted on 05/20/2023 5:34:19 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Williams

Well written, the object of the Bakhmut operation was to bleed out and degrade Russian forces while taking the least amount of casualities possible. Now flank the remaining Russian troops by going around the burning hulk of rubble that had been a nice little city and trap those inside. This guy is very good: https://www.youtube.com/@RFU


54 posted on 05/20/2023 6:00:49 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Williams

I’m reminded of that age-old strategic maxim, endlessly repeated since the time of Sun-Tzu through Clausewitz and beyond, taught in every military school across the planet, “He who controls Bakhmut holds the key to conquering the world.”

With this galactically stupendous historic accomplishment* the Russians are now the unchallenged rulers of the globe.

*If true.


76 posted on 05/20/2023 8:15:57 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Williams
No one is in denial about Bachmut, rather they are in amazement about what Ukraine has accomplished.

What a joke! You need to jump back on your meds!

Ukraine has not accomplished "squat." The Ruskies are fighting the whole of the US/WEST. And so far, they've captured 20% of the Uke territory -- and expanding. In fact, this is shaping up to be another major boondoggle for the US like we saw in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc.

In fact, the Ruskies just captured Bakmut with a rag-tag group of prisoners and malcontents. WOW! That really speaks well for your Uke friends and the US/NATO! Right? In the meantime, we stand ready to default on our debt obligations while you and Biden/Brandon send $200 billion to the clown, Zelensky. And, we can't even protect our own borders while being invaded from the south.

Smart. Real smart!

82 posted on 05/20/2023 9:04:06 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: Williams
Going to the G8 to get more support could not possibly be a “fool’s errand”.

More interesting is who is not at any of the meetings. That Russian guy who used to engage with other world leaders.

China granted overflight rights to the NATO military airplane that Zelensky is riding in, that is probably a message to Putin.

95 posted on 05/20/2023 9:42:00 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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