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1 posted on 05/19/2023 8:04:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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My husband knew a man who did a successful dead-stick landing in an F-16 like thirty years ago. From what I understand the aircraft glides well and is easy to fly. I have to say I’d love to take one out for a spin!


26 posted on 05/19/2023 8:29:54 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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What’s going to happen when these 2 pilots decide to fly the F-16”s to Iran and selling them to the Iranians so they can retire comfortably? I heard John Kerry is waiting to broker the deal.


27 posted on 05/19/2023 8:33:07 AM PDT by eyeamok
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4 months to proficiency and 3 weeks for English proficiency, if needed - but no one in Europe will have spare F-16s in that time frame.


32 posted on 05/19/2023 8:39:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Seems like the Russians are terrified of F16s..lol


33 posted on 05/19/2023 8:40:12 AM PDT by KOZ.
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The planes they’ll get aren’t going to be the same ones out AF pilots use. These things will be in short supply and when they’re short down, that’ll be it unless these donating countries have more junk they want to give.


40 posted on 05/19/2023 8:48:06 AM PDT by qaz123
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More of your leftist garbage from Business Insider via Yahoo. All support for Biden’ s war all the time.

The only articles you Zeeper trolls whine about are from conservative sources.


42 posted on 05/19/2023 8:50:02 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Timber Rattler; mylife; stars & stripes forever; jimwatx; BobL; DesertRhino; zipper; ...
"...Four experienced US air force instructors assessed the Ukrainian pilots and determined the pilots could perform several "relatively technical" maneuvers, including landing after losing an engine and withstanding mock attacks..."

Well, this is good. Because those things are really important up there in the air when you face an enemy who has hostile intent, is intent on destroying you, and is more familiar with their aircraft and weapons systems.

But I guess as long as those two pilots each have "The Ghost of Kiev" as their wingman, they will be safe.

As long as there is a "Ghost of Kiev" to protect each inexperienced pilot.

53 posted on 05/19/2023 9:05:14 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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You should go fight for Zelensky. Do it today.


60 posted on 05/19/2023 9:19:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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in a performance that is likely to ratchet up the growing pressure on the Biden Administration to send the lightweight warplanes to Ukraine

Growing pressure from whom?

70 posted on 05/19/2023 9:33:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government)
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“The Ghosts of Kiev”


73 posted on 05/19/2023 9:56:21 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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No jets for you! ...

...says the jet Nazi.


75 posted on 05/19/2023 10:02:13 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/patriot-station-batteries-destroyed-hypersonic

Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev

Following a major strike on the Ukrainian capital Kiev in May 16, which involved use of multiple missile classes including deployment of Kinzhal ballistic missiles against Ukraine’s Patriot air defence systems, new information regarding the strike has continued to emerge. With Western sources having confirmed that a Patriot system was taken out of action, the Russian Defence Ministry on May 18 reported: "According to verified information, as a result of a strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kiev a multifunctional radar station, as well as five launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by the United States were hit and completely destroyed on May 16, 2023.” It was previously only confirmed that the radar station, which provides command and control for each Patriot unit, was destroyed. Ukraine received two units of Patriots from mid April, with the first delivered less than a month before the recent strike. The United States repeatedly proved reluctant to provide the assets or to allow its European allies to do so, not only because this would deplete the relatively limited arsenals available to the U.S. Military and its allies, but also because of their extreme cost and the significant reputational damage which their destruction in combat could cause. The system’s failure was widely predicted in light of its highly modest combat record against much simpler missiles than those in Russia’s arsenal.

Three primary factors thought to have influenced Washington to eventually approve transfers of Patriots to Ukraine included sustained pressure from European allies, the danger of Ukrainian population centres becoming unliveable due to Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, and the very serious depletion of Ukraine’s existing air defence network built around Soviet S-300 and BuK systems which the country inherited in considerable quantities in 1991. Patriots are by far the most costly military assets Ukraine has in service, and their delivered has absorbed a high portion of the funds allocated to aiding the Ukrainian war effort - an investment which it was long argued by multiple analysts would be far from cost effectively. The Patriots were assigned to protect the capital following major Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, with their much lower mobility and more limited arcs of fire than even Soviet era variants of the S-300 system limiting their suitability for use near the frontlines in Eastern Ukraine. The Patriot system targeted reportedly fired 32 interceptors at the Kinzhal ballistic missiles that targeted it, all of which failed, with this salvo alone having cost approximately $96 million.

76 posted on 05/19/2023 10:03:52 AM PDT by Kazan
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All airplanes fly pretty much the same.

Push the stick forward and the trees get bigger.

Pull the stick back and the trees get smaller.

Pull the stick back TOO LONG and the trees get REALLY big.

77 posted on 05/19/2023 10:19:03 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Over the course of eleven and a half total hours in nine separate simulations, the Ukrainian airmen outperformed US expectations in their quick ability to learn the ins and outs of the aircraft, according to the document.

Did they ever actually FLY an F-16?

88 posted on 05/20/2023 4:43:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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This is you, of course we know who the phonies are:

https://irp.fas.org/doddir/dod/jp3_13.pdf

“A Joint Chiefs of Staff publication on Information Operations, Joint Publication 3-13, reads:

Information Operations (IO) are described as the integrated employment of electronic warfare (EW), computer network operations (CNO), psychological operations (PSYOP), military deception (MILDEC), and operations security (OPSEC), in concert with specific supporting and related capabilities, to influence, disrupt, corrupt, or usurp adversarial human and automated decision making while protecting our own.”

https://www.racket.news/p/counter-disinformation-the-new-snake?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1042&post_id=122031014&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email


89 posted on 05/20/2023 9:15:25 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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