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The red pilling of the Republican masses
MartyrMade Twitter Thread ^ | 7/8/2021 | MartyrMade

Posted on 05/17/2023 6:44:08 AM PDT by nitzy

I think I've had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself. Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to them.

Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their perspective: The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo, etc). These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them. Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew. This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake. At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing. When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't happen.

We know as fact:
a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign
b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op
c) Steele's source told the FBI the info was unserious
d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.

Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution - agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another year. Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected admin. This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper. GOP propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.

It's hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking of gov't as a conspiracy... Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don't stand for the Anthem. They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government. But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or gov't official, because they feel most betrayed by them. The idea that the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If that were true, they'd be all over the Epstein story. The corporate press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline. Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.

This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don't know for certain whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for absolute certain that the press, the FBI, etc would lie to them if there was. They have every reason to believe that, and it's probably true. They watched the press behave like animals for four years. Tens of millions of people will always see Kavanaugh as a gang rapist, based on nothing, because of CNN. And CNN seems proud of that. They led a lynch mob against a high school kid. They cheered on a summer of riots. They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now they don't. It's a different thing to watch them invent stories whole cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence.

Time Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution. Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to change voting procedures. It wasn't just the mail-ins (they lowered signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now. Re: "fake impeachment", we now know that Trump's request for Ukraine to cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden's $ activities in Ukraine was in support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request. Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now admit it was a "mistake" - but, ya know, the election's over, so who cares? IT goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr's laptop, full of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn't have been banned.

Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source. The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information. The reaction of Trump ppl to all this was not, "no fair!" That's how they felt about Romney's "binders of women" in 2012. This is different. Now they see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use any means to exclude them from the political process. And yet they showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in 2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states (and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew. Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one, then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a concrete name on something very real.

Media & Tech did everything to make things worse. Everything about the election was strange - the changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc - but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they banned discussion of it (even in DMs!). Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr's laptop would've been the story of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same, except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome would've been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof. Even the courts' refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They'll say, w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing he'll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house?

It's a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were "protests", but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too. Forget the ballot conspiracies. It's a fact that governors used COVID to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system. They knew it was unconstitutional, it's right there in plain English. But they knew the cases wouldn't see court until after the election. And what judge will toss millions of ballots because a governor broke the rules? The threat of mass riots wasn't implied, it was direct.

a) The entrenched bureaucracy & security state subverted Trump from Day 1
b) The press is part of the operation
c) Election rules were changed
d) Big Tech censors opposition
e) Political violence is legitimized & encouraged
f) Trump is banned from social media.

They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right that their gov't is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might've kept him alive.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; deepstate; russiahoax; stolenelection
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To: nitzy

We won’t be happy until the corrupt Regime is destroyed.

Its the only way to save the Republic.


21 posted on 05/17/2023 7:34:57 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You’re dreaming.


22 posted on 05/17/2023 7:37:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nitzy

“…what they did duringCovid…”

The “they” you speak of was mostly Trump and his administration. It’s important to not forget that.

Trump shut down the government. Trump spent a trillion on the first stimulus. Trump led the vax charge.

It’s OK to despise the Biden administration. But don’t give Trump credit where there is little credit-worthy there.


23 posted on 05/17/2023 7:39:10 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Our military has been absorbed. Don’t expect a rescue.


24 posted on 05/17/2023 7:43:33 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Boogieman

“You’re dreaming”

So where do you think this is all going? The other two options are a civil war or a communist dictatorship. Because if the so called Democratic candidate steals the 2024 election that will be the last election in America. There will be no 2028.

I feel certain that if I know this Trump and the military generals and I’m talking Co-comms not joint chiefs know this also.


25 posted on 05/17/2023 7:46:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: chajin

“Red states need to be expanding their National Guards, since they, alongside the citizen resistance, are the military that would fight the left’s military.”


NOT their National Guard units, but a State Guard. The NG can be federalized with the stroke of a Presidential pen, and is thus not a reliable tool to use to protect any particular state’s interests vs. the fed.gov.


26 posted on 05/17/2023 7:49:53 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Military intervention combined with the Keyser Sose Protocol. Burns out the understory and drives the lesson home.


27 posted on 05/17/2023 7:52:22 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Ancesthntr

“NOT their National Guard units, but a State Guard. The NG can be federalized with the stroke of a Presidential pen, and is thus not a reliable tool to use to protect any particular state’s interests vs. the fed.gov.”

That, plus.....when the next plandemic hits, the feds will no doubt force the jab on all NG units again...as they did in 2021. A State Guard (SDF) would be immune from any such mandates and not under the control of the CIC.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-state-defense-force-not-under-the-control-of-the-commander-in-chief/


28 posted on 05/17/2023 7:58:15 AM PDT by Danie_2023 (A)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The military is too occupied with their pronouns.


30 posted on 05/17/2023 8:01:15 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“So where do you think this is all going?”

Wherever it’s going, it won’t be where Q said, because he’s been consistently wrong about everything. You couldn’t even guess randomly and be wrong that often.


31 posted on 05/17/2023 8:02:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: teeman8r

“Trump did not lose. we let the steal happen.”

Exactly. And we are still letting it happen.


32 posted on 05/17/2023 8:03:02 AM PDT by Danie_2023 (A)
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To: nitzy

The corrupt media props up the deep state corruption

Cut them off at the knees

Cut the cable tv


33 posted on 05/17/2023 8:03:49 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Boogieman

“Wherever it’s going, it won’t be where Q said, because he’s been consistently wrong about everything. You couldn’t even guess randomly and be wrong that often.”

Which would lead most logical, common sense possessing and fairly intelligent people to presume that Q was merely a PSYOP intended to misinform and lead people astray...making them sit back on their plump rear ends, never leave their couches, and assume that everything is already “handled”.

Just more lies from the DS, IOW. And the stuckonstupid believed it all. Because they liked the lies they were being told. They are still believing lies they like to hear....even to this day.


34 posted on 05/17/2023 8:07:47 AM PDT by Danie_2023 (A)
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To: Ancesthntr
NOT their National Guard units, but a State Guard.

Agreed. The result will unfortunately be very much like the last civil war, but as every day passes I see less and less possibility of any other outcome.

35 posted on 05/17/2023 8:17:28 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I wasn’t aware of the PEADs. I will take a look, thanks.

I hope you’re right, and that there is a plan to support an awakened populace.


36 posted on 05/17/2023 8:34:49 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Danie_2023

Bingo! But that isn’t the only PSYOP our side falls for that keeps them inactive while they furiously beat their keyboard.

One man can’t fix anything, only the citizens can.

Question: if the gov decided to kill the first born as a law, would the public do anything? My answer, NO. The government is a reflection of society and everything they do, we tolerate or ignore.


37 posted on 05/17/2023 8:40:34 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Danie_2023

“And the stuckonstupid believed it all. Because they liked the lies they were being told.”

That’s the key to any con game. As long as you are telling people what they really want to believe, they will fool themselves and do all the heavy lifting for you.


38 posted on 05/17/2023 8:42:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ancesthntr

Trump Federalized the National Guard before he left office. This order has been extended every year by Biden and is set to expire March 25, 2024. Biden has also extended Trump’s EO declaring a national state of Emergency each year. That is still in effect. most of Trumps EOs are still in effect. Pretty odd.


39 posted on 05/17/2023 8:42:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Moe-Patrick

“Question: if the gov decided to kill the first born as a law, would the public do anything? My answer, NO. The government is a reflection of society and everything they do, we tolerate or ignore.”

The Gov has already decided to kill off a certain segment of our society (the elderly in nursing homes) once....and nobody did a damned thing. They just went along like dumbfounded lemmings, blindly and obediently following....and they still are. Nobody has paid for all those deaths that were intentionally caused by Andrew Cuomo and other leftist ghouls.

So no, most of the public would do nothing, per usual. There are, however, a few still remaining that would stand up and fight back. A dying breed, apparently.


40 posted on 05/17/2023 8:46:48 AM PDT by Danie_2023 (A)
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