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1 posted on 05/15/2023 8:27:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Well Trump used the Pro Life movement for his election as President now he is tossing them under the bus..if to they were smart they would withhold that support...let him flounder..With Trump embracing the queer/trans whatever crowd I say he doesn’t deserve another shot..God Trump and now God is done with Trump.


49 posted on 05/16/2023 12:58:51 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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I think that Trump has correctly surmised that The GOP plans to use abortion as a wedge issue against him with republican voters and voters in the general election. Expect the calls for abortion bans and cuts to Social Security and Medicare to grow louder if he wins the republican nomination.


56 posted on 05/16/2023 2:14:49 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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*sigh* Someday scientists are going to figure out what causes pregnancy, and ways to prevent it.


57 posted on 05/16/2023 2:16:06 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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I am anti abortion on principle but I accept that there are logical conundrums in enforcing it.

When it’s absolutely impossible to keep both mother and fetus alive, you either kill two by deliberately taking no action, or you accept that one will have to die in order to save the other.

The Hippocratic oath requires the doctors to save a life if they can. Absolutism is antithetical to that oath.

You can only justify an absolute position against abortion if

1. there are literally no circumstances ever where an unborn child can survive to term or to a surgical intervention without killing their mother.

2. The born infant can survive. If a fetus has absolutely no chance of surviving even with all our technology to assist, God has already decreed that it will not survive. Some would say God is testing us to either accept His will and focus on saving the mother, or defy His will and risk killing the mother in the process.

3. As long as care of the mother is an afterthought and care of the child after birth is left up to Social Darwinism, backstreet abortion will remain unresolved. You want to end that trade? Solve the things that lead to impossible life choices of the mothers and babies that can easily be predicted to happen AFTER the birth.

Poverty. Abuse. Homelessness. Addiction. Underage. A girl who gets pregnant after being raped by a family member simply isn’t going to want to live with the rapist and bring up a kid in that toxic environment. Getting an abortion does, unfortunately, solve more problems for a girl in that position than going through with it.


58 posted on 05/16/2023 2:25:34 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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Bump


61 posted on 05/16/2023 2:51:21 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. )
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I wonder what Jim thinks of Trump now embracing the groomers at Disney as well as opposing abortion limits?


63 posted on 05/16/2023 2:54:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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At a crossroads, if I support pro-life, then all the leftists who would have otherwise choosen to abort will multiply.

Should I or would I rather give people the choice to abort and let them deal with the Lord on their own? Not to mention the murderous physicians and staff profiting from the industry.

Would legal abortion reduce the amount of future queers and thugs?

The aborted innocents will make it into heaven. The murderous scum will have their day in the court of judgement.

I have no control over anything, it’s all in God’s hands. Is letting God take control on this a sin?


64 posted on 05/16/2023 2:56:37 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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Donald continues to poison the waters for DeSantis. It hurts both men.

Trump does need to win and DeSantis needs to just not entertain the run.

Trump will be an excellent president and pare down many problems. DeSantis will keep many problems in place, as other Republicans have done.

DeSantis is stupid for not waiting another four years. The money and his success with Florida are messing with him. Keep the morals and the policy approaches, Ron, but be patient and say you aren't running, at this time.

Trump is not as conservative as I'd like, but he is needed to break the Deep State up and keep the Republicans and Democrats in line. We need Trump on his vendetta, doing vendetta work on those who grossly wronged him, as president, again.

Ron could have set himself up as VP very easily. This was not the way, sadly.

The big dog is Trump.

75 posted on 05/16/2023 4:10:54 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Too harsh on the 1.5 month old baby maybe???


85 posted on 05/16/2023 4:28:07 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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When there is a heartbeat, thats too late for an abortion. I think the morning after pill should be more available.

Just my opinion.


88 posted on 05/16/2023 5:07:25 AM PDT by weezel
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This is the most counterproductive statement that he has made.


89 posted on 05/16/2023 5:14:52 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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Anyone supporting 6 wk abortion will lose the general…….

Weird how RDS supporters now don’t care about winning. Last week they said Trump can’t win suburban women but are fine that RDS can’t win with strict abortion limits.

RDS supporters also are fine with 6 wk abortion as opposed to 0 wks. Hypocrites and squishy morals depending on who they are praising or bashing.

Roe vs Wade is why we lost 2022, republican politicians ignored the subject. BUT TRUMP IS THE DEMOCRAT THEY SAY, yeah right. Rep voters can’t focus or hold every politician to the same standard while barking constantly about Trump. No wonder the Rep party was dead before Trump…..and it will die again once he’s gone.

What do you want….to win or to be righteous? You can’t have both. And if the RDS supporters had any decency they would be grateful for what Trump did as a whole. He saved the party and exposed all of your favorite so-called republican politicians, media, institutions. Thus far, the voters have done nothing about those problems. The only thing they do is hop on the keyboard and pull their hair out over Trump not being perfect. Enjoy the repeated failures….

Once Trump is gone, you are going to be shocked how quickly we return to the uniparty. A wasted opportunity driven by shortsighted rep voters who expected one person to fix everything. Then blamed him for failing. You also believe another leader like Trump will ever be allowed near DC. Russiagate operators included EVERY TOP OFFICIAL IN ALPHABET AGENCIES AS WELL AS THE WHITEHOUSE……and no one will be held accountable, it wasn’t a crime. This and other tactics will be used against any enemy here forth.

MAGA is bigger than one person but will never be allowed in DC again.


100 posted on 05/16/2023 6:54:17 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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The title is a big fat lie. He said that “MANY PEOPLE” feel that.

“many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”


112 posted on 05/16/2023 3:48:17 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worrying doesn't take away tomorrow's troubles. It takes away today's peace.)
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