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Judge denies Phoenix ask for more time to clean up homeless encampment
Just the News ^ | 5/1/23 | Cameron Arcand

Posted on 05/02/2023 5:42:58 AM PDT by CFW

The City of Phoenix attempted to buy time after being ordered to clean up a large homeless encampment in downtown Phoenix known as "The Zone," but a judge denied their request.

Phoenix wanted to get rid of the court-imposed July 10 deadline, and they made the argument that it wasn't enough time to handle the situation effectively.

"The city respectfully asks the Court to stay enforcement while the appeal is pending given the significance of issues raised and the far-reaching implications of the Order, both in legal and humanitarian terms."

The city said that while they "share the Court's concerns, the City must retain discretion to create shelter, heat relief, and public service programs without the burdens of a judicially imposed cleanup" amid the upcoming extreme heat, they said in a court document filed in Maricopa County Superior Court last week.

(Excerpt) Read more at justthenews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; democrats; drugcamps; homeless
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I'm sure the city officials are shocked the judge did not allow them an extension of time in which to clear out this camp. We need to return to treatment facilities for these drug-addicted and mentally ill homeless people. Each time they are allowed to build a camp the crime in the area increases dramatically. So either get them treatment or lock them up in jail.
1 posted on 05/02/2023 5:42:58 AM PDT by CFW
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Put the City of Phoenix Mayor and her Demonicrat chain of command in jail until the court order cleanup is carried out.


2 posted on 05/02/2023 6:04:28 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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We need to return to treatment facilities for these drug-addicted and mentally ill homeless people.

We cannot truly fix most drug addicts and mentally ill homeless people. Best we can do is move them out of the way.

Prison camps can be built cheaply way out in the desert. Call them "treatment facilities" and call it good.

Or spend some real money on asylums with more humane treatment for the inmates. Like we once did.

It's not for them. It is for us.

3 posted on 05/02/2023 6:08:27 AM PDT by flamberge (Everybody's gonna hate it when we all play by the same rules)
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Only really powerful people are in a position to deny an ask.

The rest of us are relegated to denying requests.


4 posted on 05/02/2023 6:14:58 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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They were ordered in late March to clean up by sometime in July and have fought it ever since? That’s over ninety days to deal with a problem they should’ve already been working on. This tells us they don’t care about the homeless. They care about keeping the problem alive. The judge was right to reject their stay request while they appeal on likely sketchy grounds.

There’s no seriousness when it comes to homelessness in these progressive paradises. People in temporary need often have no recourse particularly if you don’t have children in tow. The chronically homeless don’t want responsibility or can’t take responsibility for their lives but that’s where the resources are spent. Tent cities and overlooking use of downtown sidewalks as restrooms is not a viable solution.

I have helped the housing insecure going so far as to open my home at times yet I’m amazed to see they end up back in the same situation. I don’t have the wealth to be a permanent meal ticket. I also don’t want to be drowned by such situations. It’s at great risk and cost emotionally and financially. They can turn to emotional blackmail or threats as well. One of my good friends has had various group homes through her charity and discovered some people don’t want to fix the fundamentals in their lives.

At what point to we say a person has to be accountable for themselves or failing the capacity to thrive on their own be subject to a guardianship? The system is revolving door that does too much for some which it didn’t really help and nothing for others who might avoid an unrecoverable fall with a little guidance and temporary assistance. If you’re a single person with no kids and not on drugs or mentally ill you find you’re not a priority for anyone. It’s shameful

5 posted on 05/02/2023 6:23:57 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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They still have until July 10. What happens if they don’t do it? Obviously a contempt of court charge.


6 posted on 05/02/2023 6:36:11 AM PDT by DannyTN
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7 posted on 05/02/2023 6:44:05 AM PDT by The Louiswu (You cannot free a man from the chains which he reveres.)
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Didn’t Phoenix used to have a large outdoor area where prisoners were kept? I know that the ‘new sheriff’ made a big deal of taking it down, but I’d assume the vacant land is still there and maybe the tents and cots used might still be in storage.


8 posted on 05/02/2023 6:49:22 AM PDT by hanamizu
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amid the upcoming extreme heat

Or, as we locals call it, the "Toasty" time.

9 posted on 05/02/2023 6:49:34 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: newzjunkey

Please be more circumspect with your willingness to “OPEN YOUR HOME” to these people.

IF you are “AMAZED” that they continually end up right back where they were-—”YOU ARE NOT READING THE TEA LEAVES WELL”

YOUR OWN SURVIVAL needs to be your ONLY pathway.


10 posted on 05/02/2023 7:02:44 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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It always comes down to this: To maintain a functioning society, sooner or later the bums must be physically removed ... one way, or another.
Pandering does not work ... it just delays the inevitable and it just brings in more bums.
11 posted on 05/02/2023 7:06:22 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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Looks homey: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.446689,-112.0847422,3a,75y,54.47h,77.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMrEbTI0PlgHuE4dulz964g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


12 posted on 05/02/2023 7:19:59 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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“ask”? in the headline?


13 posted on 05/02/2023 7:23:14 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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There’s no seriousness when it comes to homelessness in these progressive paradises.

Professional homeless advocates are deadly serious about the city funding they get for prolonging the problem.

14 posted on 05/02/2023 7:23:56 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Here’s another view: https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=33.447136%7E-112.08482&lvl=17.2&pi=-10.7&style=x&dir=167.9


15 posted on 05/02/2023 7:27:13 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: hanamizu

That was Sheriff Joe.

Too bad they got rid of him.


16 posted on 05/02/2023 8:51:34 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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Problem

Solved.

17 posted on 05/02/2023 8:57:23 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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One just has to laugh at this “...without the burdens of a judicially imposed cleanup...”
Seriously? That is the semi-polite way to say, “Your Honor? We would like to thumb our noses at you, should you just grant us permission to do so. 👍🐽”


18 posted on 05/02/2023 9:23:59 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Labyrinthos

I work just down the street from this.

Fellow co-workers have talked about not feeling safe just walking from their car to our building.


19 posted on 05/02/2023 9:39:35 AM PDT by cld51860 (We’re doomed.)
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The homeless camp is walking distance to the central business district, which may explain why the area is perceived as sketchy and under-utilized, particularly after dark. Indeed, we recently stayed at a hotel in the Central business district (we had an early flight the next day), and we had concerns for our safety walking the streets after dark, and a lot of other people apparently felt the same because the area was all but abandoned except for the homeless and zombie drug addicts.


20 posted on 05/02/2023 10:22:44 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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