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Can Trump Win Without Getting Right on the Vaccines?
America Out Loud ^ | Apr 28, 2023 | Tom Renz, Esq.

Posted on 04/28/2023 11:36:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Moe-Patrick
" The vax wasn’t meant for everyone."

Please reconcile that assertion with this here: "Biden announces sweeping vaccine mandates affecting millions of workers"

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-announce-additional-vaccine-mandates-he-unveils-new-covid-strategy-n1278735

61 posted on 04/29/2023 7:09:12 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Huh? Trump didn’t mandate the shot. He even suggested alternatives .. for which he caught holy hell.


62 posted on 04/29/2023 7:09:18 AM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: Moe-Patrick
"The vax wasn’t meant for everyone. It was only for possibly preventing death for the unhealthy. If the vax is the mass killer they claim, millions would have died because 200 million were forced to take it in the US."

For that matter, please reconcile your first sentence with your third sentence.

63 posted on 04/29/2023 7:12:14 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E. Pluribus Unum wrote: “I forgot who I was dealing with.”

Still making things up?


64 posted on 04/29/2023 7:23:49 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

You deny you are infamous here?


65 posted on 04/29/2023 7:25:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: gas_dr

I know what gaslighting is. Still no clue.


66 posted on 04/29/2023 7:27:54 AM PDT by odawg
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To: gas_dr
--- "I am not analyzing the vaccination. I am analyzing the political situation."

Thank you. That is my point. I find such a demarcation between issues the entire point. If the "vaccination" -- mRNA gene technology delivering spike protein modules -- is not political, then the whole is become just a game for so many.

One notes you did not make a statement about the "vaccination" pro or con. So it;s just politics's for politics' sake,

67 posted on 04/29/2023 7:34:37 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: odawg
--- Me: "Do you have any claim about the vax and subsequent gaslighting?” -- You: "You will have to give me a clue about what you are asking."

A remarkable exchange. How about -- are you pro-mRNA jabs or against them? Are you for or against the media narrative and attempts to mandate jabs?

68 posted on 04/29/2023 7:37:36 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Moe-Patrick
Biden, Fauci and many others said the vax would keep you from getting COVID. That was a huge lie that many believed.

Actually, the trials showed that it was effective in preventing Covid caused by the original strain of the virus - which was all anyone knew at the time.

As the virus mutated the vaccines were less effective at preventing spread but remained extremely effective at preventing serious disease.

69 posted on 04/29/2023 7:38:33 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E. Pluribus Unum wrote: “You deny you are infamous here?”

Only among the 40 or so anti-vaxxer conspiracy nuts who are constantly making things up to justify their narratives.


70 posted on 04/29/2023 7:50:16 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

You just make s**t up.


71 posted on 04/29/2023 7:54:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E. Pluribus Unum wrote: “You just make s**t up.”

That’s rich. You accuse me of making stuff up when you’re the one making things up like: β€œBill Gates already said they have the next plandemic scheduled.”

If that’s true quote, then you shouldn’t have any difficulty in providing the actual quote. But, you can’t. If you could, you would have posted it already. All you can do is repeat something your saw on youbube, not a real quote, just a couple of anti-vaxxer nut cases making things up.


72 posted on 04/29/2023 8:03:54 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

You just make s**t up.


73 posted on 04/29/2023 8:04:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E. Pluribus Unum wrote: “You just make s**t up.”

BTW, the lawyer that wrote this article (Tom Renz, Esq) has a reputation for making things up.

Here’s what one judge had to say about his allegations:

https://chroniclet.com/news/251217/federal-judge-calls-lawsuit-against-ohio-coronavirus-response-incomprehensible/

Here’s more on Tom Renz, Esq:
Did you know tht Renz failed the bar exam four times, was fired from a non-profit he worked for, and was accused of sexual harrassment bu several women.

https://www.morgancountycitizen.com/opinion/dangers-of-covid-misinformation/article_7dffcd14-2ab5-11ec-b5ca-13a6fa3d6182.html

Renz also makes things up:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-48000/fact-check-no-evidence-over-48000-people-died-within-14-days-of-receiving-covid-19-vaccine-idUSL1N2R41J6


74 posted on 04/29/2023 8:16:34 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“A remarkable exchange. How about — are you pro-mRNA jabs or against them? Are you for or against the media narrative and attempts to mandate jabs?”

Remarkable? If that were his question indeed, why then did he not ask it?


75 posted on 04/29/2023 8:51:25 AM PDT by odawg
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To: kvanbrunt2

Was his shadow cabinet perhaps his family (Ivana, Ivanka, etc?) If so maybe not a good one.


76 posted on 04/29/2023 9:04:45 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: nickcarraway

“What’s the precentcentage? He’s been going around telling people it’s one of the greatest achievements in history. How can he thread the needle that he is talking against the vaccine now? I don’t think there is a way. He better hope everyone forgets about the vaccine, and COVID in general.”

I agree. I would like to see him come clean on the vax. It doesn’t look like he will. He hopes he can ride it out, but the truth comes leaking out more each day.

I don’t blame Trump. The people won’t either, but the farther it goes on without an acknowledgement from Trump the more risk he takes on being blamed.

He is in a tough spot. He meant well. He THOUGHT he was doing the right thing. He was lied to by all (almost all) the “doctors and scientists” (of which he is neither).

His gut instincts were correct, but the fear of causing great harm and death in a pandemic was just too much to trust your “gut” against all the scientists around him.

He can still claim ignorance of the truth being in the white house/Washington bubble. This excuse gets thinner and thinner as time goes on.


77 posted on 04/29/2023 9:11:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: central_va

I took a 60% paycut and did not get it. Some things are more important than yourself. Stand for something or I am telling you.. you will always kneel.
Patriots weep because kneelers are the same ones who turn their neighbors in for a crumb of bread.


78 posted on 04/29/2023 9:13:01 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: odawg

I figured knew what it was. I just laugh when I see someone attack another person, in this case, you, with the gaslighting accusations. My guess is this is another Pavlovian response from the famous 40


79 posted on 04/29/2023 9:31:09 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Can Trump win without getting right on the vaccines?"

Depends on what you mean by "getting right".

80 posted on 04/29/2023 9:36:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (It is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government)
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