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Ron DeSantis signs legislation to combat hate crimes while on trip to Israel
NBC News ^ | Gabe Gutierrez

Posted on 04/28/2023 5:29:30 PM PDT by jimwatx

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To: Fuzz

Ask the people at “Occupy Wall Street” who berated a man with a Kappa on if he was a “good Jew” or a “bad Jew”.

What did they mean by that?


41 posted on 04/28/2023 7:10:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others.")
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To: jimwatx

Are crimes motivated by hate worse than other crimes? How about crimes motivated by love? Murders triggered by allegations of infidelity or stalking incidents might be called love crimes—and these can be just as heinous as “hate crimes.”


42 posted on 04/28/2023 7:12:10 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: thefactor

It blatantly violates the 1st Amendment.


43 posted on 04/28/2023 7:41:14 PM PDT by jimwatx
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There are only two possibilities here:

You have not read the bill, or

You have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.

44 posted on 04/28/2023 7:45:19 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

One of the specific things cited as a hate crime in this legislation was that if you said “Jews control the media”. So are they going to arrest Kanye now next time he visits the state?
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-719843

This law is overbroad and insane not to mention unconstitutional.


45 posted on 04/28/2023 7:48:36 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx
One of the specific things cited as a hate crime in this legislation was that if you said “Jews control the media”.

Please show me where the law states that. I'm not doubting you, I just need to see it so I can either agree with it or counter it.

46 posted on 04/28/2023 7:56:17 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

The more I see of DeSantis the less I like him. DeSantis can pretty much kiss off the libertarian vote after pulling this unconstitutional political stunt.


47 posted on 04/28/2023 7:56:17 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: thefactor

Already posted it above.

2019’s HB 741 bans any speech in the public school systems of Florida deemed to be “making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations” about Jews or “the power of Jews as a collective,” such as “the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.”


48 posted on 04/28/2023 7:58:20 PM PDT by jimwatx
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Ah-ha! Now I see what’s happening. You’re talking about HB 741 which is from years ago. The article is about HB 269 which was signed yesterday. Mystery solved.


49 posted on 04/28/2023 8:00:51 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

Wow. What a tyrant. Only an authoritarian can put in a law what opinions one can say about press ownership. Embarrassing.


50 posted on 04/28/2023 8:01:24 PM PDT by TTFX
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Yes he’s starting to look like a tyrant with fascist tendencies. Napoleon complex.


51 posted on 04/28/2023 8:08:18 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The bill doesn’t specifically address “hate crimes” against Jews. The bill makes it a felony to harass anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. I’m not sure why it’s being framed specifically as criminalizing criticism of Israel or Jews. It could also be applied to “Islamophobia”, or any other “hate crime”.

Either way, it’s a disturbing development. Who gets to make the distinction between harassment and simply speech that someone doesn’t like? As if government doesn’t already have enough laws that can be weaponized. This just adds one more weapon to its arsenal.


52 posted on 04/28/2023 9:18:50 PM PDT by mbrfl
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On August 5, 2019 Trump proposed the death penalty for hate crimes. Do you condemn him? After all, hate crime legislation is anti 1st Amendment, right? Or is it only bad when DeSantis does it?

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.


53 posted on 04/29/2023 5:58:33 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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Me: Post #17: The law actually covers all religious victims. So that's not the issue.

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

I already posted that! You should direct that post to others. Don't post that to me.

54 posted on 04/29/2023 8:00:46 AM PDT by FreeReign
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And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

And don't ever again even loosely imply that I used the above religious slur, by posting your above comment to me.

55 posted on 04/29/2023 8:11:39 AM PDT by FreeReign
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On August 5, 2019 Trump proposed the death penalty for hate crimes. Do you condemn him?

I did, actually. But I knew Trump was getting destroyed by the Deep State, Globalists, and members of his own party so that wasn't a pertinent issue then.

After all, hate crime legislation is anti 1st Amendment, right? Or is it only bad when DeSantis does it?

I oppose any and all hate crimes and elevating groups or races above another. In case you haven't noticed, there is an epic crime wave happening right now against white people. Zero media coverage or outrage.

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

The legislation is vague and corrupt Jewish groups like the ADL (which was founded to exonerate a child rapist/murderer) will use the legislation to target and imprison their critics.

This legislation is blatantly unconstitutional and should be struck down.

56 posted on 04/29/2023 4:10:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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