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Ron DeSantis signs legislation to combat hate crimes while on trip to Israel
NBC News ^ | Gabe Gutierrez

Posted on 04/28/2023 5:29:30 PM PDT by jimwatx

JERUSALEM — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed legislation cracking down on hate crimes Thursday morning after a high-profile speech in Israel.

Known as the “Public Nuisances” bill, the legislation — passed Wednesday by the Legislature — makes it a felony for hate groups to harass people for their religion or ethnicity. Florida had the fourth-highest number of antisemitic incidents last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

DeSantis is in Israel as part of his overseas trade mission with stops in Japan and South Korea. He also met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday before he wrapped up the global trip in the United Kingdom.

“He’s a friend of Israel,” Netanyahu said in an interview shortly after the meeting. “We talked about Iran. We talked about Israel-U.S. relations.”

DeSantis is preparing to join the 2024 presidential contest as soon as mid-May.

DeSantis visits Israel ahead of expected presidential run APRIL 27, 202303:33 DeSantis also signed a measure to combat antisemitism on a trip to Israel in 2019. It was aimed at preventing discrimination on the basis of religion in Florida public schools.

DeSantis addressed a packed auditorium in Jerusalem on Thursday morning at the Museum of Tolerance Jerusalem. The “Celebrate the Faces of Israel” conference comes the same week as the 75th anniversary of Israel’s independence. DeSantis, flanked by his wife, Casey, arrived to cheers in the standing-room-only auditorium.

“We must support Israel’s right to defend itself,” he told the friendly crowd.

DeSantis shared his often-told story about using water from the Sea of Galilee to baptize his children — and how people in Israel sent him some replacement holy water when staff members at the Governor’s Mansion mistakenly threw out a half-empty bottle.

He also stressed national security issues.

“Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons creates a risk like you’ve not seen in this region,” DeSantis said. “It’s an existential threat to the state of Israel and to the United States of America.”

DeSantis’ supposedly pro-business trade mission risks being overshadowed by a growing controversy back home: the dramatic escalation of his feud with Disney, which accused him of being anti-business and of orchestrating a “targeted campaign of government retaliation” in a new lawsuit.

Aside from the official state purposes of the trip to Israel, it also is a way to bolster his foreign policy credentials after he faced backlash for having called the war in Ukraine a “territorial dispute.” He later clarified his comments, calling Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal.”

Netanyahu is seen as a staunch ally of former President Donald Trump, who is running for a second term in 2024 and has been relentlessly attacking DeSantis over the past few months.

“We didn’t talk about American politics,” Netanyahu said in the interview Thursday. "I have enough politics here."

Netanyahu has been wary of being seen as interfering in U.S. elections before. In 2012, he denied having done so after a clip of him was featured in an ad for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney. Analysts don’t expect Israelis to signal a clear preference for either Trump or DeSantis — at least not yet.

“I imagine that every Israeli politician will try to stay out of it and try to say that both of them are friends of Israel,” said Jonathan Rynhold, the head of the political studies department at Bar-Ilan University. “Whether former President Trump lets Israeli politicians do that or not is another question, because he tends to see things in very personal terms.”

In 2017, DeSantis and other U.S. lawmakers traveled to Israel to tour possible sites to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. In his speech Thursday, he said he tried to “cajole” the previous administration to move the embassy. At the time, he met with Yehudah Glick, a Brooklyn-born rabbi and former Knesset member whom Palestinians see as a far-right lightning rod. He survived an assassination attempt in 2015 and later unsuccessfully ran for president.

In an interview ahead of DeSantis’ visit, Glick praised DeSantis’ family values and his support of moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. Trump ended up announcing the move later in 2017; Glick stressed he has no inside knowledge of whether DeSantis’ public advocacy played any role.

“Ron DeSantis was extremely active in trying to locate the exact place to put the embassy,” Glick said. “I was very impressed by how much he was devoted to it.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: desantis; freespeech; hatecrimes; rondesantis
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To: Fuzz

Ask the people at “Occupy Wall Street” who berated a man with a Kappa on if he was a “good Jew” or a “bad Jew”.

What did they mean by that?


41 posted on 04/28/2023 7:10:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others.")
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To: jimwatx

Are crimes motivated by hate worse than other crimes? How about crimes motivated by love? Murders triggered by allegations of infidelity or stalking incidents might be called love crimes—and these can be just as heinous as “hate crimes.”


42 posted on 04/28/2023 7:12:10 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: thefactor

It blatantly violates the 1st Amendment.


43 posted on 04/28/2023 7:41:14 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx
There are only two possibilities here:

You have not read the bill, or

You have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.

44 posted on 04/28/2023 7:45:19 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

One of the specific things cited as a hate crime in this legislation was that if you said “Jews control the media”. So are they going to arrest Kanye now next time he visits the state?
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-719843

This law is overbroad and insane not to mention unconstitutional.


45 posted on 04/28/2023 7:48:36 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx
One of the specific things cited as a hate crime in this legislation was that if you said “Jews control the media”.

Please show me where the law states that. I'm not doubting you, I just need to see it so I can either agree with it or counter it.

46 posted on 04/28/2023 7:56:17 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

The more I see of DeSantis the less I like him. DeSantis can pretty much kiss off the libertarian vote after pulling this unconstitutional political stunt.


47 posted on 04/28/2023 7:56:17 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: thefactor

Already posted it above.

2019’s HB 741 bans any speech in the public school systems of Florida deemed to be “making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations” about Jews or “the power of Jews as a collective,” such as “the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.”


48 posted on 04/28/2023 7:58:20 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

Ah-ha! Now I see what’s happening. You’re talking about HB 741 which is from years ago. The article is about HB 269 which was signed yesterday. Mystery solved.


49 posted on 04/28/2023 8:00:51 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jimwatx

Wow. What a tyrant. Only an authoritarian can put in a law what opinions one can say about press ownership. Embarrassing.


50 posted on 04/28/2023 8:01:24 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: TTFX

Yes he’s starting to look like a tyrant with fascist tendencies. Napoleon complex.


51 posted on 04/28/2023 8:08:18 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The bill doesn’t specifically address “hate crimes” against Jews. The bill makes it a felony to harass anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. I’m not sure why it’s being framed specifically as criminalizing criticism of Israel or Jews. It could also be applied to “Islamophobia”, or any other “hate crime”.

Either way, it’s a disturbing development. Who gets to make the distinction between harassment and simply speech that someone doesn’t like? As if government doesn’t already have enough laws that can be weaponized. This just adds one more weapon to its arsenal.


52 posted on 04/28/2023 9:18:50 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: FreeReign; Extremely Extreme Extremist

On August 5, 2019 Trump proposed the death penalty for hate crimes. Do you condemn him? After all, hate crime legislation is anti 1st Amendment, right? Or is it only bad when DeSantis does it?

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.


53 posted on 04/29/2023 5:58:33 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: elenvee
Me: Post #17: The law actually covers all religious victims. So that's not the issue.

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

I already posted that! You should direct that post to others. Don't post that to me.

54 posted on 04/29/2023 8:00:46 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: elenvee
And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

And don't ever again even loosely imply that I used the above religious slur, by posting your above comment to me.

55 posted on 04/29/2023 8:11:39 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: elenvee
On August 5, 2019 Trump proposed the death penalty for hate crimes. Do you condemn him?

I did, actually. But I knew Trump was getting destroyed by the Deep State, Globalists, and members of his own party so that wasn't a pertinent issue then.

After all, hate crime legislation is anti 1st Amendment, right? Or is it only bad when DeSantis does it?

I oppose any and all hate crimes and elevating groups or races above another. In case you haven't noticed, there is an epic crime wave happening right now against white people. Zero media coverage or outrage.

And, for those who are so eager to condemn DeSantis for supporting joos, the legislation covers all religions.

The legislation is vague and corrupt Jewish groups like the ADL (which was founded to exonerate a child rapist/murderer) will use the legislation to target and imprison their critics.

This legislation is blatantly unconstitutional and should be struck down.

56 posted on 04/29/2023 4:10:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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