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To: DiogenesLamp; thefactor; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Skeptical constituent; Bartholomew Roberts; ...

About the turnout percentages:

You can calculate turnout as a percentage of registered voters, or as a percentage of all adult citizens who could have registered and voted. The latter percentage will obviously be lower. (For example, if there are 224 adults, of whom 158 register, and 138 of them vote, then the turnout is 87.3% of the registered voters but only 61.6% of the adult population.)

Each statistic will tell you something interesting. What doesn’t make sense is to use different calculations for successive elections and then argue that the change reflects something fundamental. It reflects nothing but statistical sleight-of-hand. That’s what’s going on when people claim that turnout in 2020 jumped from 60-some percent to 90-some percent.

The lower number is the one more commonly used. By this measure, turnout was up about six or seven percentage points in 2020, a year when many jurisdictions made it easier to vote by mail. Recent presidential election numbers:
2000: 54.2%
2004: 60.1%
2008: 61.6%
2012: 58.6%
2016: 60.1%
2020: 66.6%

Biden 2020 got about 15.4 million more votes than Clinton 2016. Does that show Democratic fraud? Well, Trump 2020 got about 11.2 million more votes than Trump 2016. Does that show Republican fraud? I prefer the obvious explanation: EACH party got millions more votes, because millions more people voted. Trump’s share of the vote actually increased, from 46.1% in 2016 to 46.8% in 2020. Biden won because he racked up an even bigger increase over Clinton’s share (51.3% versus her 48.2%).

That three-point difference could have been fraud. Or maybe a lot of people just didn’t like Hillary. The overall numbers don’t prove or disprove the allegation of widespread fraud. You have to look at the specific cases.


164 posted on 04/28/2023 11:58:50 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Excellent post. Thank you.


165 posted on 04/29/2023 4:56:10 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Biden 2020 got about 15.4 million more votes than Clinton 2016. Does that show Democratic fraud?

Clinton was an obnoxious hateful bitchy woman whom nobody liked. It makes perfect sense that she would represent the bottom of Democrat vote getting.

Barack Obama however represented the very top, and Biden beat him by 12 million votes.

Didn't happen. In no universe would people like Biden more than Barack Obama.

169 posted on 05/01/2023 2:01:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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