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Very interesting read. I suspect this may happen.
1 posted on 03/26/2023 7:38:29 AM PDT by devane617
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2 posted on 03/26/2023 7:43:39 AM PDT by null and void (While our enemies are on a war footing, we are pussyfooting!)
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later


4 posted on 03/26/2023 7:50:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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5 posted on 03/26/2023 7:51:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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[[ The truth, though, is that we don’t know if humanity has still one year or six months]]

oh yes we do- we have a guaranteed 1007 and 1/2 years left, likely even more than that. The bible guarantees it. This earth will not dissappear, nor burn up, nor die for at least that much longer, nor will people dissappear from the face of the earth. They will be reigning with christ during the millenia, and the unsaved will be serving christ and peaceful for those 1000 years.

After that, then yes, this old earth is in peril as God will create a new heaven and earth.

Of course the climate change alarmists don’t beleive the bible, so they continue with their ignorant predictions of doom.


6 posted on 03/26/2023 7:58:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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Once ... destroyed, all power would vanish. Industry would grind to a halt. Massive amounts of data, including almost all financial data, would simply disappear. All methods of communication beyond voice range would no longer exist. It wouldn’t be a matter of waiting to be rescued by a government of any sort. Government would have shrunk to little more than a notion. The very tools on which relief, and even recovery, depend would simply have vanished. The consequences beggar the imagination. A new Dark Age would have been the best option to expect.

The reason John Kerry and Al Gore and their fellow idiots aren't screaming about this is there's no way for corrupt silly vile 'elites' to make money OR power off this - plus they're too stupid to understand the carrington effect.

7 posted on 03/26/2023 8:15:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (When Morning Joe's sycophants say "My Democracy" it sounds like Gollum saying "my precious")
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God’s mercy endures forever!


8 posted on 03/26/2023 8:18:54 AM PDT by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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“It’ll be 1859 times 100.”

“You mean...?”

“That’s right: 185,900.”


9 posted on 03/26/2023 8:20:08 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Wow.

“If it [3/12’s CME] had been facing in our direction, if the earth had borne the full brunt of that blast, we can scarcely imagine the results. It’s likely that all operating electrical systems would have been immediately destroyed, the same as the telegraph systems in 1859.

Any active electronic instruments — and possibly even those that happened to be shut down — would have been fried, transformed into useless hunks of plastic, metal, and silicon. “


12 posted on 03/26/2023 8:38:07 AM PDT by plain talk
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Would both Hemispheres be equally affected? If not that would cause some interesting results.


13 posted on 03/26/2023 8:43:59 AM PDT by Starstruck ( Living life, Binge watching re-runs of actual history.)
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The thing about the Carrington event is that we don't know how common they are throughout history?

Are they a 1 in 25 year, 1 in 50 year, 1 in 100 year, or 1 in 1,000 year event?

All we really know is there hasn't been another Carrington level event to strike earth since 1859.

14 posted on 03/26/2023 8:56:10 AM PDT by fso301
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“We Dodged the Apocalypse”

A CME will be far from the apocaplypse, even one 100 times bigger than the Carrington event.

The physics of a CME and how it impacts our technology are a bit of a technical deep dive, but I’ll do my best.

A CME is not like an “EMP” of Hollywood. A CME will not impact your electronics, it will not keep your car from starting. It’s possible to minimize damage from it.

The reason the telegraph stations of 1867 caught fire - or in some case continued to function despite being disconnected from their battery banks is complicated, but here’s why it manifested like that back in the day.

A CME impacts the earth when the charged particles from the sun hit our geomagnetic field - and “move” them. When you move the geomagnetic field you generate a very low-frequency circulating current in the earth - it may travel hundreds of miles beneath the surface. The net effect on the grid is that the ground potential at a particular geographic location may change relative to another location on the earth.

If you have telegraph stations that may be hundreds of miles apart - a “quasi-DC” current will flow (basically very low frequency - a fraction of a hertz) - and it could be a substantial current. So if this current dumps into a battery station - it exceeds the capacity of the batteries and generate a voltage that may spark and create fires. That’s what happened in 1867.

Today, if you have two transmission substations that are hundreds, even thousands of miles apart, a current will also flow from a substation where the ground potential is high, to where the ground potential is low. This, too, could be a substantial current.

How this causes damage is when a particular type of transformer (commonly in use in the grid) called an “autotransformer” conducts the DC current through its windings - offsetting the magnetic core around which windings surround asymmetrically - and being precisely engineered devices - this causes problems. One half of a sine wave may be unaffected, but the other half goes into “saturation” due to the magnetic core offset. This causes an abrupt “clipping” of the sine wave - and that means it creates harmonics on the power grid, and dumps a percentage of the sine wave as heat in the core.

Transmission lines carry a lot of power. A transformer may normally operate at a very high efficiency. When it is in “half-cycle saturation” it will operate at a much much lower efficiency - and the difference gets dumped into the core which is not designed to dissipate this much heat. This heat builds up quickly and can quickly damage the transformer, even set it ablaze.

That’s a significant problem, but it’s not an “electronics-destroying EMP”.

However, not every transmission substation will be subject to this impact. Today, things like “GIC” (the DC current on a transmission line during a CME event) can be monitored. It can be blocked if one puts measures in in advance. It can also be shut off, if one monitors it closely, as we are able to do now.

The other impact of a CME is to satellites. One way satellite operators respond to a CME is to align the satellites solar panels so they are “edge on” to the CME to protect them from degradation and damage from charged particles. Unfortunately this is the worst-case for generating power for the satellite - so unless they have sufficient battery power, they will quickly have to go into a “power save” mode. This is one reason why GPS gets interrupted during a CME, as well as other satellite communications.

One other communications-related impact is with undersea cables. High-speed communications rely on fiber-optic relays. For undersea cables, these have to be powered. Usually on both ends of a cable. These ends are obviously thousands of miles apart - so if the end points (or any relays/repeaters along the way) have a difference in ground potential, it is possible to cause damage to an undersea cable, if it is not properly designed to protect against this.

So let’s look at the worst case for a CME: Some power transmission substations may be damaged. Some transformers attached to power generation stations may be damaged. Some satellite services will be disrupted for a period of time. Some undersea cables may be damaged.

Given that some warning will be given due to continuous monitoring of the sun and solar flare activity, there is a good chance we will be able to respond before a CME hits the earth. There are lots of potential responses - and some are likely to be disruptive, but we can avoid the worst long-term consequences if we are willing to take those actions.

Bad? Yeah, probably. Apocalyptic? Probably not if we are not stupid about it.


15 posted on 03/26/2023 8:57:54 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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Too bad it didn’t happen.


17 posted on 03/26/2023 9:35:58 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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God may not be so gracious next time.

I consider it a warning shot.

God does not bring judgment without multiple warnings and calls for repentance. He would rather forgive and restore than judge, but when people refuse to listen, then it becomes no choice. Deal with the evil or let it continue to destroy lives and the world. And as we are seeing, there are no depths to the evil among us that the left is not hesitant to go.


18 posted on 03/26/2023 10:08:14 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Yet another “we all must live in fear all the time” articles.


20 posted on 03/26/2023 10:50:49 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Back in 2012 I think it was, we had an X class flare rated as an X-10. It was kind of a big deal at the time because it was the larges “X” flare ever recorded in real time be multiple solar satellites. X-flares are the highest rating after C and M class.
HF radio in the Northern Hemisphere was severely disrupted as I observed in real time. This X-10 was nowhere near a Carrington event. So, if it was 100 times worse than the Carrington event and X-10 is less than that, what X-class would it be? At least over an estimated X-1000?
I wonder because I have not heard anyone rate this non-Earth facing flare by class and number. They always make a big beal about X-flares, but not this one.
The Sun Dog that didn’t bark, it would seem.

SS1


26 posted on 03/26/2023 4:40:30 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Donate often, it is our FReeping ammo. Help keep the supply train rollin', be a monthly donor. )
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