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US says drone recovery difficult as Russian ships at crash site
Aljazeera ^ | 16 Mar 2023 | Unnamed

Posted on 03/16/2023 4:33:39 AM PDT by tlozo

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To: tlozo

It was in international airspace when it was brought down.

Very likely that it was NOT in international airspace when collecting. While surely very pretty, that drone isn’t made to go sight seeing of the sea.


41 posted on 03/16/2023 5:46:34 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Lurker

“Since when does any nation get the right to declare International air space a no fly zone?”

I think you have a point, as Rule 37 only applies to NATO:

Per Rule #37 of the “Rules-Based International Order” that the EU keeps reminding Russia of. It states the following:

RULE 37: “When in the Interests of NATO, a No-Fly Zone can be declared in any areas that are demarkated by NATO and provided to ICAO with 24 hours notice. This includes International Waters.”


42 posted on 03/16/2023 5:46:39 AM PDT by BobL
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To: tlozo

Gee, then we will never know. Neither side is honest.


43 posted on 03/16/2023 5:47:19 AM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: canuck_conservative

“so you’re saying Russia does have that capability?”

Clear TROLLING now on your part. Nice try!


44 posted on 03/16/2023 5:47:35 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Tom Tetroxide
Russia wants war

Sure, ignore recent Russian invasions, and threats to neighboring countries.

45 posted on 03/16/2023 5:48:10 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: dforest

“Most of these Zeepers do not comprehend that Russia has advanced beyond us in certain capabilities.”

Then they spend all of their time trolling here. It’s getting to the point where they need to be removed.


46 posted on 03/16/2023 5:48:58 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Red6
Very likely that it was NOT in international airspace when collecting

Even the Russians AREN'T making the argument the drone was NOT in international air space.

47 posted on 03/16/2023 5:50:08 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: canuck_conservative

They will call in their best magnet fishers.


48 posted on 03/16/2023 5:51:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: tlozo

We can’t do that without examining our own invasions. It isn’t always okay when we do it.

The US invaded Ukraine in the non military fashion a long time ago. We are there as as provocateurs for our own purposes.

None of this is worth WWIII.


49 posted on 03/16/2023 5:52:31 AM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

They fly up and down our east coast every day. I wouldn’t be shocked to learn they fly around the west coast either.

It’s funny....y’all think the Cold War ended in 1993.


50 posted on 03/16/2023 5:53:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: dforest
The US invaded Ukraine in the non military fashion a long time ago

LOL, sure US invaded Ukraine with dreams of living better.

51 posted on 03/16/2023 5:54:34 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

CNN called it an act of war. The BBC says it is as well. The news is trying to purport that this is at the least an unwarranted act of aggression. As I see it. Its a very warranted act of defense. When China starts putting their drones in the gulf of Mexico just off the Louisiana coast, the US will define this same situation very differently.


52 posted on 03/16/2023 5:55:02 AM PDT by poinq
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As I see it. Its a very warranted act of defense

Not sure why some FReepers cannot get their heads around the simple concept of international air space.

53 posted on 03/16/2023 5:56:35 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

“Not sure why some FReepers cannot get their heads around the simple concept of international air space.”

Come one man....they struggle with getting their “R”s facing in the right direction. Don’t expect them to understand confusing things like “airspace.” //sarc


54 posted on 03/16/2023 5:58:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: dforest

Could be.
I can’t imagine not having a “safety switch” on a piece of equipment like that.


55 posted on 03/16/2023 5:59:24 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

I know that. Initially we were told the Russians did it. After the Russians were pretty much cleared NATO started the BS lie that some rogue Ukrainian group did it. I was referring to NATO telling one obvious lie to cover another obvious lie. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


56 posted on 03/16/2023 6:13:00 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: dforest

“UMB Financial Corp”

And yet I heard an ex-serviceman say the other day, that people were tracking it on Twitter & we need to get back to using untrackable spy planes.


57 posted on 03/16/2023 6:15:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Carriage Hill

“I’m surprised there isn’t a remote self-destruct function on something that expensive and classified.”

They have the ability to erase the sensitive information, but why it can’t also self destruct is something I don’t understand either.


58 posted on 03/16/2023 6:17:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Russia invaded Ukraine. It then annexed Ukrainian territory.

Why do you think its neighbors want to join NATO.


59 posted on 03/16/2023 6:20:44 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: tlozo
US General Mark Milley said the MQ-9 Reaper drone sank in an area of the Black Sea where depths are up to 1,500 metres.

If Milley says it will be difficult to recover it, then that means the Russians will probably have it tomorrow.

60 posted on 03/16/2023 6:21:27 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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