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To: artichokegrower
Young boy was shot because...

The question I ask myself is: "when is it necessary for police to use deadly force?" Cornell Law School attempts to answer this question.

ยง 1047.7 Use of deadly force.
(a) Deadly force means that force which a reasonable person would consider likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Its use may be justified only under conditions of extreme necessity, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed. A protective force officer is authorized to use deadly force only when one or more of the following circumstances exists:
(1) Self-Defense. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to protect a protective force officer who reasonably believes himself or herself to be in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.
(2) Serious offenses against persons. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offense against a person(s) in circumstances presenting an imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm (e.g. sabotage of an occupied facility by explosives).
(3) Nuclear weapons or nuclear explosive devices. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of a nuclear weapon or nuclear explosive device.
(4) Special nuclear material. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of special nuclear material from an area of a fixed site or from a shipment where Category II or greater quantities are known or reasonably believed to be present.
(5) Apprehension. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offense of the nature specified in paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(4) 1 of this section; or (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or explosive or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the protective force officer or others unless apprehended without delay.
1 These offenses are considered by the Department of Energy to pose a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm.
(b) Additional Considerations Involving Firearms. If it becomes necessary to use a firearm, the following precautions shall be observed:
(1) A warning, e.g. an order to halt, shall be given, if feasible, before a shot is fired.
(2) Warning shots shall not be fired.

9 posted on 02/20/2023 6:40:54 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

Ramming a police car is certainly within the guidelines of assault with a deadly weapon


55 posted on 02/20/2023 7:22:24 AM PST by Nifster ( EI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: JesusIsLord

Thank for the copy and paste. In brought to mind something I’ve been thinking for a few months now.

What has happened over the years two policemen’s options instead of going to use of force with a deadly weapon?

The police have been stripped of other options of using Force such as pr24 batons, steel toed boots, certain sprays, any number of things we have taken away from the police. Yes those were painful to use on the perpetrators but it was probably better than a bullet and here we are... we’ve stripped them of any option of going through the use of force ladder, with reduced options of a taser which can be very deadly or sidearm, or rifle or shotgun. I think we need to bring back some of those tools which were effective yet could cause pain if the perpetrator so desired to exercise certain options.


61 posted on 02/20/2023 7:35:07 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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