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US Warns It Will Defend Philippines After China Deploys Laser At Sea in a New Significant Incident Involving the Philippine and Chinese Coast Guards
Nation and State ^ | 02/14/2023 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/14/2023 9:15:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: buwaya

See my post number 20


21 posted on 02/15/2023 6:56:51 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sink the chicom ship. They want to intimidate? Let’s rumble.


22 posted on 02/15/2023 7:00:50 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

It comes down to how many missiles (naval and air force weapons, not army ammo) are in stock vs how many targets need to be destroyed.

And that comes down to what US goals are in such a war. If the US limits itself to, say, destroying the Chinese Navy, there probably is plenty of ammo for that. If the goal is to destroy and keep suppressed invasion ports oriented to Taiwan, more; airfields in range, even more; missile launchers, industrial sites, transport targets, and on and on... Certainly not.


23 posted on 02/15/2023 7:14:57 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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What a foolish post. Nations cannot choose what sort of war they want. Attack another sovereign nation’s navy means general war. Whether the US could do more than some damage is also problematic. Once a war begins the nations involved are in the domain of the unknown and unpredictable. There are so many just plain foolish and stupid remarks on this forum by people who do not have the slightist idea what they are writing about vis a vis armed conflict. One thing is obvious, the number of barca lounger warriors here is great, those who have seen the elephant are few. Pretty much like the US as a whole.


24 posted on 02/15/2023 7:30:51 AM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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It matters what war aims are and the national strategy. A total war to utterly destroy China’s means of resistance is not likely to be a feasible goal short of nuclear war.

Its certainly not a reasonable goal for the USN or USAF.

No more than it was a reasonable goal for the Royal Navy in 1914-18, to destroy German industry by bombardment. It was a reasonable goal, however, for the RN to blockade Germany and halt its foreign trade, and to prevent the German Navy from interfering with that.

And that will also be the primary job of the USN in a war with China.


25 posted on 02/15/2023 8:05:00 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Becoming involved in a war with a great power immediately mans being in a situation that is inherently uncontrolable. People like you are devoid of common sense and represent the level of foolishness that today passes for thought in a country in which almost no one alive remembers what a big war is like or even the cold war when it was serious. People such as you love to spout this nonsense knowing that they will never be called on to pay the checks they are writing with their mouths. You are a fool and a war monger.


26 posted on 02/15/2023 12:35:24 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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Whatever dude. When war comes to you, you fight. And this is what happened to Ukraine. People like you always edge around the fact that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

The odds were bad then, and have only somewhat improved over the last year. The Ukrainians still seem to be willing to fight for their country, which is admirable. There are a lot of similar cases in history, and many are at the core of the western cultural inheritance. That, for instance, is the story told by Herodotus, about the Persian invasion of Greece (see “300”). The underdog doesn’t often win, but when he does it is glorious.

You have to invent all sorts of stories with which to morally disparage Ukraine (the nation and people), or back the Russian case, such as it is, or tie Ukraine in as at fault in creating American political corruption (which is inherent to the depraved state of the US), in order to evade your guilt, which exists in you at some level, which comes from rejecting your European cultural heritage.


27 posted on 02/15/2023 2:11:01 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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You are a war monger. There is nothing in all of Europe that merits any risk to any US military personnel or spending huge amounts of US taxpayer dollars People like you (a) have not the foggiest idea what a real war is like (b) you enjoy pontificating without having ever served a minute in any militsry orgsnization (c) you get very excited at the prospect of sending other Ameicans in harms way. You sre a disgusting example of a K Steet stooge. To bad if there is a war you won’t get to know what it is like up close and personal.


28 posted on 02/15/2023 2:16:33 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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I am not a K-street stooge! I was a member in good standing of the military-industrial complex, in my day. A technical sort, not the money side, sadly. So you can run with that.

And, to be personal, your post is the typical run of invective with no facts or arguments. It’s not a proper rebuttal to an argument. It is more in the category of new age scream therapy.


29 posted on 02/15/2023 3:58:20 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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I figuered some sort of stooge. You can’t contain your desire to sit on the side lines and watch other, better men, risk their lives in some some corrupt and stupid K Street venture. Makes you feel soo good , doesn’t it. Begone stooge and jingo whore.


30 posted on 02/15/2023 5:12:05 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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I’ve never understood how scream therapy is supposed to have worked. I get that it’s a get it all out kind of thing, but that in itself doesn’t help in re serotonin uptake or production, that I’ve heard.

Yeah, now we discuss Jordan Peterson’s lobsters, in re serotonin, etc, but he is on to something.

Anyway, I recommend a withrawal from “combat” here, and a nice hobby that offers small successes with little inherent risk of frustration. Duolingo say, or woodworking. I do not recommend photography, my own obsession, as that is inherently frustrating.


31 posted on 02/15/2023 5:27:43 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Begone jingo whore. I remember your like in Viet Nam. The drunks from NHA particularly stand out. What contemptible human beings. Would mock US Army ground and air crews for how little they made compared to those heroes. Went on until a US Army warrant after a bad day aloft shot one of the bigger NHA loudmouths.


32 posted on 02/15/2023 5:31:20 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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Part of your problem, it seems, is trauma from Vietnam that you are trying to get resolution for on the forum. It’s a very frustrating quest of course. In part because this forum is not Vietnam, obviously, and because the world cannot be twisted and stuffed into your very narrow revenge scenario.

No offense, but that is a trap you have made for yourself. I would be talking about therapy, if I didn’t have a very low opinion of that.

Again, I think you need some peaceful hobby that doesn’t set off such a reaction.


33 posted on 02/15/2023 5:51:39 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Go away warmongering whore there were more and more MIC parasites such as you after Viet Nam. You are warmonger. It warms your heart to think of having another ‘good’ war


34 posted on 02/15/2023 6:34:35 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are gonna fight Russia and China and Iran all at the same time...all to make the world safe for perverts.

This is US foreign policy in a nutshell—a nut shell.


35 posted on 02/15/2023 6:40:15 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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