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A Panicked Empire Tries To Make Russia "An Offer It Can't Refuse"
The Cradle ^ | 1FEB2023 | Pepe Escobar

Posted on 02/05/2023 6:54:30 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide

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To: jimwatx

How many more Russian soldiers do you want dead before you finally admit to the truth?

Russian casualties in Ukraine are nearing 200,000, with losses from the assault on Bakhmut far out-weighing the city’s strategic value, US officials say

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11709517/Russian-casualties-Ukraine-nearing-200-000-officials-say.html


41 posted on 02/05/2023 9:42:59 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: jarwulf

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11709517/Russian-casualties-Ukraine-nearing-200-000-officials-say.html


42 posted on 02/05/2023 9:44:16 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: little jeremiah; All

https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-22/putins-fascists-russias-home-grown-neo-nazis/100927582

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/23/russian-neo-nazis-participate-in-denazifying-ukraine-der-spiegel-a77762

https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535


43 posted on 02/05/2023 9:49:35 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: ansel12
helps America and our national security

A year ago when Russia first rolled into Donbas, how did Russia threaten our national security?

44 posted on 02/06/2023 1:52:29 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: kenmcg

Just like Hunter’s laptop, right?


45 posted on 02/06/2023 2:09:56 AM PST by RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus
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To: MarMema

Bkmk


46 posted on 02/06/2023 3:35:32 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Being anti-official America is becoming being pro-true America.


47 posted on 02/06/2023 5:23:46 AM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: ansel12

And exactly what would NATO be expected to do - start WWIII by exceeding it’s bounds?


48 posted on 02/06/2023 5:40:18 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: ansel12

Exactly how is this crap helping America?


49 posted on 02/06/2023 5:42:33 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: ansel12

If you think this war in the Ukraine and our involvement in it helps the US in any way then you are a fool.


50 posted on 02/06/2023 5:50:30 AM PST by jpsb
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To: trebb

Not do anything particularly.

A year ago we thought the Russian military was rebuilt, and restructured, with new and modern weapons and the 2nd in the world, so surely NATO was prepared to deal with whatever the outcome would be of a 2-week Russian conquest of Ukraine.

After Ukraine has beat up and exposed and stripped the facade off of an old, tired Russia, things have changed some and it will be easier to handle Russia than if it had happened last year, so brush off the old plans and options and modify them to fit the new situation.


51 posted on 02/06/2023 5:52:28 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Russia lost over 8 million troops in WW2, today’s Russia is the same old Russia. Napoleon found out the hard way that invading Russia is a very bad idea. So did Germany and so will NATO should NATO decide to fight Russia on Russia door step. Mean while our real enemy, China’s CCP, grows stronger by the day.


52 posted on 02/06/2023 6:05:38 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

What are you rambling about, and why post it to me?


53 posted on 02/06/2023 6:07:26 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
After Ukraine has beat up and exposed and stripped the facade off of an old, tired Russia, things have changed some and it will be easier to handle Russia than if it had happened last year, so brush off the old plans and options and modify them to fit the new situation.

Exactly wrong.

54 posted on 02/06/2023 6:27:05 AM PST by jpsb
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To: USA-FRANCE

Odd propaganda list you managed to claw together.

Funny how neo-nazis in Russia are arrested. I bet your precious articles don’t mention that.

There’s also the little item of biolabs in Ukraine that needed to be taken down, plus the atrocities the Ukrainian military has been committing in the Donbass for quite some years.

Carry on with your little delusion, free will etc.


55 posted on 02/06/2023 6:41:09 AM PST by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: little jeremiah; All

So according to you, Russian propaganda is fair...
But Western facts are unfair?

After all... think about this for a few seconds:

WHO invaded WHAT?
RUSSIA invaded Ukraine, right?
And there are zero Ukrainian troops in Russia, right?

CONCLUSION:
You endorse invaders.
You oppose the respect for BORDERS.

CONSEQUECE:
By deduction this means you support the invasion going on at our southern Mexican BORDER as well, right?

QUESTION:
Why dont you have respect for BODERS?
Why dont you want sovereign nations to remain sovereign?
Why do you support invaders?


56 posted on 02/06/2023 7:55:48 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

You know less than nothing about the actual historical facts.

“To argue with a man who was renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
-Thomas Paine.

Buh bye


57 posted on 02/06/2023 11:18:08 AM PST by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Literal KGB propaganda


58 posted on 02/06/2023 10:25:32 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: rmlew

I didn’t know the KGB was still around. So pretty much anything that says Russia is winning including the pro-Ukrainian battle map showing the Russians advancing is all propaganda?


59 posted on 02/07/2023 1:57:58 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: ansel12

To me, saying NATO needs to work outside the bounds of its “contract” is akin to finding the nonexistent “Noble Cause” clauses in the Constitution to justify breaking the constraints in the Constitution.


60 posted on 02/07/2023 4:11:56 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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