To Neocons it's always 1938, and Hitler is always on the horizon.
Right now Putin is Hitler. Iran was Hitler and might be again. And 20 years ago Saddam was Hitler.
Posted on 01/26/2023 2:38:53 PM PST by conservative98
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 11h
FIRST COME THE TANKS, THEN COME THE NUKES. Get this crazy war ended, NOW. So easy to do!
Jan 26, 2023, 5:44 AM
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Oh, this is going to be fun!
“Well, history may rhyme, but if it does, your example is irrelevant. Simply put, ‘Putin’ doesn’t rhyme with ‘Hitler’...”
No kidding. But, of course, the comparison never mentioned either, did it?
“...because Hitler had a competent military, that had no trouble conquering multiple countries...”
Oh, this is too easy! The comparison was 1938 and abandoning Czechoslovakia to its fate. So, pray tell, just which “multiple countries” had this untested, unbloodied, “competent military” conquered? Come on, name them!
“...none of which were armed with nuclear weapons.”
Meaningless, because in 1938 no one had nukes. That does not alter the comparison one iota.
“Putin’s ‘clown car’ military, on the other hand, couldn’t even take Kiev - and any attack on NATO forces backed by nukes would amount to national suicide.”
Clown-car military? Oh, you’re going to be burned at the stake by the pro-Russia FReepers for that slander!
“But boy howdy, that doesn’t stop the drama queens on FR from bringing up Hitler at every opportunity - one guy told me that he couldn’t ‘help but wonder how much more it’s going to cost us when after Ukraine Russia takes Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and down to Serbia.’
Well, for one thing that “guy” doesn’t know much about the region and its geo-political realities. For one thing, Serbia is pretty much an ally of Russia, so why Russia would invade and conquer Serbia is a mystery (but, who knows? Germany turned on its ally the USSR and invaded it in June, 1941; so, there is precedent, anyway). As for the others, they are in NATO precisely BECAUSE they do not want to be invaded by Russia: They had lived under the Russian yoke, and they do not want an encore performance.
“Oh you betcha - those dang Ruskies have been bogged down in Ukraine for almost a year, but apparently it’s just a ruse, and any day now those Russian Super Men will be attacking NATO...”
Well, they have been threatening to do just that.
“...and rolling tanks through Warsaw, Prague, and Budapest...”
As happened in 1956 in Hungary and 1968 in Czechoslovakia.
“...on their way to Paris, Rome, and London next week!”
Well, if that was in the plans, they made a mess of it.
“Did I mention that the under-funded, under-trained, under-equipped, and completely corrupt Ruskie military couldn’t even take Kiev?”
Well, now; again you’re going to be pummeled and dragged through the streets by pro-Russia FReepers for that comment. You see, according to them, the Russians didn’t WANT to take Kiev.
“They’re so pathetic, we probably could have sent that $100 billion to Russia instead of Ukraine, and they still wouldn’t be a threat to NATO...”
They are not of the same caliber they once were, but to call them pathetic is inaccurate. The fact remains they are still fighting. I wish they weren’t, and had all gone back home to Russia. But they haven’t.
Putin has indicated in more than enough ways that he intends to reconstruct an empire more like the Soviet Union.
Ukrainians are now paying the ultimate price for what US/ EU politicians like Victoria Nuland, Lindsey Graham and Obama did in November 2013 at the Maidan square in Kiev. ......and continue to do today.....getting played by these people has a price.
Joe Biden said in 2016:.....”We led a coup in Ukraine, installed a government, looted, and played both sides”
Further reasonable to ask why did every actor and national politicians go headfirst into an active “war zone” this past year.....and Zelensky interview by David Letterman for a Netflix show?
Additionally If US/Nato leaders wanted to harden the minds of Russians - sending German tanks was the best way to achieve that and cross yet another red line.
Much of what is labeled as ‘misinformation’, ‘disinformation’, or ‘harmful’ are inconvenient facts that counter the mainstream narrative today. People are going to decide what they believe based on what they’re fed a steady stream of.....apart from the other viewpoints.
It would be amusing, and enlightening...
Yes. And clearly there are Freepers here who still watch msm, or are influencers making decent cash to trash Russia.
Guess you have a short memory - reread your own post #39:
"In 1938 the West said, "Sacrificing Czechoslovakia is better than war with Germany. Hitler doesn’t want anything beyond Czechoslovakia.” Well, Czechoslovakia WAS sacrificed and we got a world war anyway."
You did indeed mention Hitler, and if you were NOT comparing Hitler's occupation of Czechoslovakia with Putin's invasion of Ukraine, perhaps you can explain why you believe your comments were relevant.
The comparison was 1938 and abandoning Czechoslovakia to its fate. So, pray tell, just which “multiple countries” had this untested, unbloodied, “competent military” conquered? Come on, name them!
You really should try to remember what you post - as quoted above, you stated that "Czechoslovakia WAS sacrificed and we got a world war anyway." If you really need a list of "which 'multiple countries'... this untested, unbloodied, 'competent [German] military' conquered", look it up under the "world war" you yourself referenced.
Meaningless, because in 1938 no one had nukes. That does not alter the comparison one iota.
Actually, your comparison is nonsensical: you compare Europe today to Europe in 1938. You note that "in 1938 no one had nukes", but ignore the fact that several NATO countries have nuclear arsenals. Hitler obviously would not have conquered a nuclear-armed western Europe.
Clown-car military? Oh, you’re going to be burned at the stake by the pro-Russia FReepers for that slander! etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
I note that you cannot dispute the simple fact that Putin's under-funded, under-trained, under-equipped, and completely incompetent conventional forces not only couldn't take Kiev, but pose no real threat to NATO. Congratulations!
Oh, this is going to be fun!
Apparently you enjoy forgetting what you posted, and spewing nonsense! Go back to your 'Russian Bogeyman' comic books...
;^)
It [the war] will not be ended. Biden and Zelensky are making too much dirty money from it. It will last until neither can make any money from it. Biden and Zelensky have too many worshipers who will make sure it continues.
Well those FR characters here are tied into web sites promoting Ukraines propaganda....likely snowballed into thinking they should support Ukraine... They read and listen to those people and then bring it here....regurgitated so to speak. They cannot be rasoned with with facts or truth nor do they want to know either.
But It is sinister how Russia’s been attacked over the years...always blaming Russia because that’s our governments favorite boogieman is to go after Russia and blame them....also a cover for what they’re doing they shouldn’t be. Hillary and Obama wer huge at using Putin for everything they wanted to shift blame to....and so is Bidens admnistrations.....
....However some of us here have been observing Putin and his nation for many years and realize the man nor his nation will ever be acceptable to the West. Nothing he can say or do will change that.....I think since Bidens election Putin now fully realizes this....so he’s taking his nation and people now where he thinks what is best for Russia and building alliancs elsewhere from the west. I saw that step up pace during Obamas terms....rapidly.
Putin’s been an interesting study for me over the years. As has been Trump and others who are distinguished from the rest. ...and recently Musk got my attention. These are people who stand out and do amazing things thought impossible...or could not be done.
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I was in Moscow for Putin’s first election.
And back to Russia every few years beginning in the 90s.
It was a 3rd world country the first time I went. I watched it transform to a stunning and beautiful city.
Putin has done *amazing* things for his country.
Would that we could have a leader like that, but with the freedom and support Trump never had.
Imagine Trump supported by congress and the media.
I stayed for a month with a Russian general and his wife.
They lived quite well. She didn’t work.
I ate a lot of eggplant with horseradish on that visit, I recall.
Anyway they were quite happy with Putin.
My third visit to the Moscow circus was on that trip.
Russians are so polite and kind. I remember the general got me a ticket and took me there. Picked me up afterward.
They babysat my newly adopted 3 yo.
Putin was loved then and I am sure still is loved.
Envious. Look what we have.
Putin is a ten and we have a 2.
You cut his tweet short. After that, he said:
So easy to do.
Yeah right. Like what? Nothing after that. Of course.
We're becoming Russia. A Third World nation with nukes.
Dying republic. The empire will come. Will the tyrant be a lefty or righty?
Supposed to be China.
Ok. Yes.
To Neocons it's always 1938, and Hitler is always on the horizon.
Right now Putin is Hitler. Iran was Hitler and might be again. And 20 years ago Saddam was Hitler.
Yes
Your grasp of history here is tenuous at best.
People like you decide the truth based on who tells you what you want to hear. If you like them, it is true, if you don’t, it is false.
The ultimate sheeple.
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